An Aviation Reminder To Mr Warren Truss
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An Aviation Reminder To Mr Warren Truss
Below is a reminder of what Mr Truss has said he will do. (my bolding/comments added). I should add Mr Truss that the IOS are watching closely.
I posted the below on another thread. I still reckon Mr Truss needs to consider some of these points as well;
On a final note - Mr Albanese, farewell and good riddance. You were a pathetic aviation Minister. Words cannot describe your arrogance, ignorance, ineptitude and sheer laziness. Please take Mrdork with you. You leave behind a sorry record of aviation mismanagement. I for one will not miss you, hang your head in shame and don't bang the door on the way out. Bye bye.
Messrs Phelan and Sandilands - There is much work to be done in reporting of 'all things aviation'. Keep up your robust work over the coming months and beyond. You seem to be the only Reporters keen on keeping the bastards honest, so don't rest now whatever you do. There is STILL a need for justice to be served for crimes of the past, please don't let those stories be forgotten. The IOS are behind you (so to speak!)
THE federal Coalition plans to bring in a prominent member of the international aviation community to conduct an external review of aviation safety and regulations similar to the Wheeler inquiry into aviation security.
Mr Truss, we look forward to the appointment of this person.
It will announce the move today as part of its aviation policy that foreshadows a potential restructure of the Civil Aviation Safety Authority and a strengthening of the CASA board by increasing the number of members from four to six.
Again, we look forward to thses changes. The current board however should remain at 4 people, but 4 new board members, all with aviation experience. Bureaucrats need not apply. A complete removal of the ATSBeaker's 3 Commissioners is also needed, with a replacement of them with aviation experienced people.
It is also promising a formal aviation industry consultative council that would meet regularly with the transport minister to address matters of concern to the wider industry, and an industry complaints commissioner to investigate grievances about the regulator or its operatives "in a reasonable time".
A new ISS Commissioner and a restructure is needed.
The external safety and regulation review comes after recent adverse findings by the Senate Rural and Regional Affairs and Transport Committee and after industry feedback that safety regulations were being inappropriately applied and were too bureaucratic.
"We've had such feedback from the industry about the regulatory process and the operations of CASA, it simply has to be addressed," opposition transport spokesman Warren Truss told The Australian.
"We've also got the inevitable and ongoing differences of opinion in the sector about how everything should be done and I thought the Wheeler Review was actually a very useful exercise in dealing with aviation security.
"Not all the recommendations were perfect, but it acted as a circuit breaker and his report has effectively underpinned all that we've done on aviation security since."
Mr Truss said he thought it highly unlikely there would be a consensus on the best way to proceed with the regulatory system.
"I'm hopeful that we will be able to get a decisive breakthrough as we did with Wheeler," he said, noting the opposition did not have a particular candidate in mind but that it would be someone whose views and work would be respected.
He said a Coalition government would not proceed with changes until the review was completed. He said he would like to have it completed so that key decisions could be made by March, when current CASA boss John McCormick's current term expired.
Better get moving Warren. And please do watch out for the tactics of the GWM. The DAS, Associate DAS and Deputy DAS also need to be removed by March.
"There are some things I can do immediately without asking for an outside expert. It's just self-evident," Mr Truss said.
Hmmm, put your money where your mouth is Warren. You know what you need to do, now go and do it.
"For instance, it's silly to have a board that the CEO is not answerable to, and things like that. But it's better to do it all in one go when a new person is appointed or there is a renewal of a term."
Mr Truss conceded that aviation had been an area "where angels dared to tread", but there was concern about the system wherever he went, particularly among licensed aircraft maintenance engineers.
"The big airlines, they can cope with this, because they've got the people and the systems, but the poor one-man operator or just two or three people at a country airfield, this paper war is something they can't very easily cope with," Mr Truss said.
The policy calls for a firm strategic direction for CASA with renewed focus on meaningful industry consultation, an emphasis on consistency in interpreting the rules and a more timely and streamlined review process.
The industry complaints commissioner would be responsible for investigating complaints about CASA personnel and delegates or authorised personnel.
Bring back Michael Hart.
The commissioner would be required to provide a quarterly report to the board and director of aviation safety that included a summary of activities, the number or complaints received and time taken to respond.
How about adding to this - A comprehensive overview of the actions taken against CAsA as a result of proven complaints? Time for lip service to be gotten rid of, bring in department accountability.
"The other issue we get constantly is criticism of differences in the way the same laws are interpreted in different offices by different people," Mr Truss said.
Other key parts of the policy include better utilisation of the airspace.
The Coalition will task Airservices Australia with fast-tracking technological improvements at airports that are supported by both airports and airlines and could improve reliability.
The enroute subsidy scheme would be revived but would be restructured to provide maximum help to marginal routes.
The carbon tax goes as part of the wider Coalition policy, aviation manufacturing would be encouraged and there would be a move to revitalise general aviation.
On the vexed question of a second Sydney airport, the Coalition would make a decision on a second site in its first term of government.
Mr Truss, we look forward to the appointment of this person.
It will announce the move today as part of its aviation policy that foreshadows a potential restructure of the Civil Aviation Safety Authority and a strengthening of the CASA board by increasing the number of members from four to six.
Again, we look forward to thses changes. The current board however should remain at 4 people, but 4 new board members, all with aviation experience. Bureaucrats need not apply. A complete removal of the ATSBeaker's 3 Commissioners is also needed, with a replacement of them with aviation experienced people.
It is also promising a formal aviation industry consultative council that would meet regularly with the transport minister to address matters of concern to the wider industry, and an industry complaints commissioner to investigate grievances about the regulator or its operatives "in a reasonable time".
A new ISS Commissioner and a restructure is needed.
The external safety and regulation review comes after recent adverse findings by the Senate Rural and Regional Affairs and Transport Committee and after industry feedback that safety regulations were being inappropriately applied and were too bureaucratic.
"We've had such feedback from the industry about the regulatory process and the operations of CASA, it simply has to be addressed," opposition transport spokesman Warren Truss told The Australian.
"We've also got the inevitable and ongoing differences of opinion in the sector about how everything should be done and I thought the Wheeler Review was actually a very useful exercise in dealing with aviation security.
"Not all the recommendations were perfect, but it acted as a circuit breaker and his report has effectively underpinned all that we've done on aviation security since."
Mr Truss said he thought it highly unlikely there would be a consensus on the best way to proceed with the regulatory system.
"I'm hopeful that we will be able to get a decisive breakthrough as we did with Wheeler," he said, noting the opposition did not have a particular candidate in mind but that it would be someone whose views and work would be respected.
He said a Coalition government would not proceed with changes until the review was completed. He said he would like to have it completed so that key decisions could be made by March, when current CASA boss John McCormick's current term expired.
Better get moving Warren. And please do watch out for the tactics of the GWM. The DAS, Associate DAS and Deputy DAS also need to be removed by March.
"There are some things I can do immediately without asking for an outside expert. It's just self-evident," Mr Truss said.
Hmmm, put your money where your mouth is Warren. You know what you need to do, now go and do it.
"For instance, it's silly to have a board that the CEO is not answerable to, and things like that. But it's better to do it all in one go when a new person is appointed or there is a renewal of a term."
Mr Truss conceded that aviation had been an area "where angels dared to tread", but there was concern about the system wherever he went, particularly among licensed aircraft maintenance engineers.
"The big airlines, they can cope with this, because they've got the people and the systems, but the poor one-man operator or just two or three people at a country airfield, this paper war is something they can't very easily cope with," Mr Truss said.
The policy calls for a firm strategic direction for CASA with renewed focus on meaningful industry consultation, an emphasis on consistency in interpreting the rules and a more timely and streamlined review process.
The industry complaints commissioner would be responsible for investigating complaints about CASA personnel and delegates or authorised personnel.
Bring back Michael Hart.
The commissioner would be required to provide a quarterly report to the board and director of aviation safety that included a summary of activities, the number or complaints received and time taken to respond.
How about adding to this - A comprehensive overview of the actions taken against CAsA as a result of proven complaints? Time for lip service to be gotten rid of, bring in department accountability.
"The other issue we get constantly is criticism of differences in the way the same laws are interpreted in different offices by different people," Mr Truss said.
Other key parts of the policy include better utilisation of the airspace.
The Coalition will task Airservices Australia with fast-tracking technological improvements at airports that are supported by both airports and airlines and could improve reliability.
The enroute subsidy scheme would be revived but would be restructured to provide maximum help to marginal routes.
The carbon tax goes as part of the wider Coalition policy, aviation manufacturing would be encouraged and there would be a move to revitalise general aviation.
On the vexed question of a second Sydney airport, the Coalition would make a decision on a second site in its first term of government.
By way of suggestion to Mr Truss, he ought to consider the following;
• The current Board does not need an increase in trough dwelling bureaucrats whose job is to protect a Minister while squeezing the DAS testicles between thumb and forefinger (they are rumoured to be quite small). The entire Board needs replacing, and should be replaced by 4 senior people with aviation experience. Their role becomes one of actually completing things such as the reg reform, improving aviation safety, enhancing our current system and reporting honestly and transparently with the sole purpose being SAFETY. Even if that means having to make hard decisions. Career bureaucrats serve no value on the Board.
• Restructure of the 'trio of DAS'. The current three should ALL be dumped come March 2014. Replaced by one DAS and one Deputy DAS who have an aviation background but one that includes actual aviation safety knowledge and experience. We don't need test pilots and angry 'one man show ' induviduals steering (I mean attempting to steer) Australian aviation.
• The incoming Government will need to publicly state 'Houston we have a problem', and admit that successive governments have f #cked the whole system. The sore has been ignored and now we have cancerous lesions.
• The ICC - The current set up is an absolute disgrace. Time for some back to basics, and lets use Michael Hart as an example of how the ICC should be run. Perhaps not perfect, but the current set-up is similar to a Mexican court.
• Any Government advisers on aviation matters could be made up to include independents and people like Xenophon and Fawcett, they simply must be considered.
• CAsA restructure - Apart from the obvious need to tear down the current malaise, there needs to be a ****load of tidying up of past events. How? A high level of inquiry/commission must be introduced to sift through the past events that simply will not be closed until justice is served, truth revealed and closure provided to the countless who have been wronged, denied, suffered at the hands of systemic bureaucratic failures, otherwise Australia will continue to be at pains for decades to come, just like NZ still is over Erebus where justice was never served. Closure must be prioritised for;
- The Transair Lockhart farce.
- The Pel Air fiasco
- Canley Vale, the next can of worms.
- Justice for Butson, Stan, Quadrio, James, Urqhart, Hare and the list goes on and on and on.........
• Time line - A 3 year time line, coinciding with the new Governments term should be set for finishing reform, restructuring CAsA, fixing the ATSB (which should include the removal of the three non aviation Commissioners), a Royal Commision or similar to be hopefully completed and apologies/recompense/justice be awarded to aviation victims and accountability including potential charges be laid upon negligent serving and former government employees.
• Mr Truss states that he can introduce some interim measures ? I would trust that might included removing the CAsA AND ATSBeakers top executives prior to the end of March 2014? And Mr Truss, lets see your plans detailed and in writing with a PERSONAL commitment and accountable statement from yourself please.
• Assistance - The incoming Government needs to eat a giant **** sandwich and seek assistance from ICAO to start with, followed by a potential working group from the FAA and CAA. Both labor and liberal have proven over the past 25 years that they do not understand aviation, have not been capable or willing to govern aviation, have contributed to the absolute demise in aviation safety standards and contributed to the death of GA. The mere voting in of a new government does not fix the underlying problems.
• The current Board does not need an increase in trough dwelling bureaucrats whose job is to protect a Minister while squeezing the DAS testicles between thumb and forefinger (they are rumoured to be quite small). The entire Board needs replacing, and should be replaced by 4 senior people with aviation experience. Their role becomes one of actually completing things such as the reg reform, improving aviation safety, enhancing our current system and reporting honestly and transparently with the sole purpose being SAFETY. Even if that means having to make hard decisions. Career bureaucrats serve no value on the Board.
• Restructure of the 'trio of DAS'. The current three should ALL be dumped come March 2014. Replaced by one DAS and one Deputy DAS who have an aviation background but one that includes actual aviation safety knowledge and experience. We don't need test pilots and angry 'one man show ' induviduals steering (I mean attempting to steer) Australian aviation.
• The incoming Government will need to publicly state 'Houston we have a problem', and admit that successive governments have f #cked the whole system. The sore has been ignored and now we have cancerous lesions.
• The ICC - The current set up is an absolute disgrace. Time for some back to basics, and lets use Michael Hart as an example of how the ICC should be run. Perhaps not perfect, but the current set-up is similar to a Mexican court.
• Any Government advisers on aviation matters could be made up to include independents and people like Xenophon and Fawcett, they simply must be considered.
• CAsA restructure - Apart from the obvious need to tear down the current malaise, there needs to be a ****load of tidying up of past events. How? A high level of inquiry/commission must be introduced to sift through the past events that simply will not be closed until justice is served, truth revealed and closure provided to the countless who have been wronged, denied, suffered at the hands of systemic bureaucratic failures, otherwise Australia will continue to be at pains for decades to come, just like NZ still is over Erebus where justice was never served. Closure must be prioritised for;
- The Transair Lockhart farce.
- The Pel Air fiasco
- Canley Vale, the next can of worms.
- Justice for Butson, Stan, Quadrio, James, Urqhart, Hare and the list goes on and on and on.........
• Time line - A 3 year time line, coinciding with the new Governments term should be set for finishing reform, restructuring CAsA, fixing the ATSB (which should include the removal of the three non aviation Commissioners), a Royal Commision or similar to be hopefully completed and apologies/recompense/justice be awarded to aviation victims and accountability including potential charges be laid upon negligent serving and former government employees.
• Mr Truss states that he can introduce some interim measures ? I would trust that might included removing the CAsA AND ATSBeakers top executives prior to the end of March 2014? And Mr Truss, lets see your plans detailed and in writing with a PERSONAL commitment and accountable statement from yourself please.
• Assistance - The incoming Government needs to eat a giant **** sandwich and seek assistance from ICAO to start with, followed by a potential working group from the FAA and CAA. Both labor and liberal have proven over the past 25 years that they do not understand aviation, have not been capable or willing to govern aviation, have contributed to the absolute demise in aviation safety standards and contributed to the death of GA. The mere voting in of a new government does not fix the underlying problems.
Messrs Phelan and Sandilands - There is much work to be done in reporting of 'all things aviation'. Keep up your robust work over the coming months and beyond. You seem to be the only Reporters keen on keeping the bastards honest, so don't rest now whatever you do. There is STILL a need for justice to be served for crimes of the past, please don't let those stories be forgotten. The IOS are behind you (so to speak!)
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We can always hope but so far nothing has come out of elections except the continuation of the Public Servants baffling the Minister with BS.
Every time it the same. Labor always fields a Minister who has a perceived problem with airport noise and Coalition, a Nat who is more interested in roads, rail and exports of primary produce. When I was lobbying in Canberra, the most excited I ever saw a Transport Minister was when he was discussing B747s full of exported food.
Non have a clue about Aviation or even are remotely interested.
That is why we have the problems that we have and nothing will change until we get to a few smoking holes in the ground or the US banning our aircraft in their airspace.
Wunwing
Every time it the same. Labor always fields a Minister who has a perceived problem with airport noise and Coalition, a Nat who is more interested in roads, rail and exports of primary produce. When I was lobbying in Canberra, the most excited I ever saw a Transport Minister was when he was discussing B747s full of exported food.
Non have a clue about Aviation or even are remotely interested.
That is why we have the problems that we have and nothing will change until we get to a few smoking holes in the ground or the US banning our aircraft in their airspace.
Wunwing
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The current board however should remain at 4 people, but 4 new board members, all with aviation experience. Bureaucrats need not apply. A complete removal of the ATSBeaker's 3 Commissioners is also needed, with a replacement of them with aviation experienced people.
The current jokers must go!
Yep...time for ACTION...!!
..but will we get it.??
The bureaurats will be browsing the CYA manual on how to stymie any changes to the staus quo they disagree with, and you can bet "Oh Minister "safety, safety, safety" will get a good airing.
Not sure that the good journos have 'kept the bastards honest', but have certainly been the only ones to keep showing up CAsAs dishonesty and bastardry...which has, and continues to be, ongoing.
IOS alert Warren. So go to it.
We hear the talk...NO excuses.
IMHO the current das should be terminated forthwith having shown by his actions in words and deeds he is unfit for the job. And a few of his co-workers (sic) should form up behind him and march out the front door as well.
The industry, ooops!, the IOS have absolutely no confidence in, and CAsA have shown by their record, no credibility at all to be capable of overseeing, developing and properly regulating for a vital and robust GA.
Things had better change and change for the better. And soon.
The bureaurats will be browsing the CYA manual on how to stymie any changes to the staus quo they disagree with, and you can bet "Oh Minister "safety, safety, safety" will get a good airing.
Not sure that the good journos have 'kept the bastards honest', but have certainly been the only ones to keep showing up CAsAs dishonesty and bastardry...which has, and continues to be, ongoing.
IOS alert Warren. So go to it.
We hear the talk...NO excuses.IMHO the current das should be terminated forthwith having shown by his actions in words and deeds he is unfit for the job. And a few of his co-workers (sic) should form up behind him and march out the front door as well.
The industry, ooops!, the IOS have absolutely no confidence in, and CAsA have shown by their record, no credibility at all to be capable of overseeing, developing and properly regulating for a vital and robust GA.
Things had better change and change for the better. And soon.
'droppy' sadly I am thinking along the lines you are. We have been beaten constantly over the years by the aviation decisions that has left this country way behind the rest of the world & to be brutally honest aviation has a low priority in any Govt's mind as there's no money in it & its not part of our pathetic manufacturing industry which gets propped up with our tax dollars for nothing than to keep people in jobs for a little bit longer.
The few Pollies that have shown sympathy for our industry are pretty much fighting a losing battle. There is some good intentions in some Pollies but they are fighting an evil that runs very deep.
God 'elp us all I say!
Wmk2
The few Pollies that have shown sympathy for our industry are pretty much fighting a losing battle. There is some good intentions in some Pollies but they are fighting an evil that runs very deep.
God 'elp us all I say!
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From T Abbott's acceptance
"I now look forward to forming a government that is competent, that is trustworthy, and which purposefully and steadfastly and methodically sets about delivering on our commitments to you, the Australian people."
Lets hope Sen X and Senator Fawcett (did he get in?) have a word. Perhaps some iOS might want to write to Tony and re enliven issues.
Oh yes, bring back Hart.
"I now look forward to forming a government that is competent, that is trustworthy, and which purposefully and steadfastly and methodically sets about delivering on our commitments to you, the Australian people."
Lets hope Sen X and Senator Fawcett (did he get in?) have a word. Perhaps some iOS might want to write to Tony and re enliven issues.
Oh yes, bring back Hart.
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Halfmanhalfpollingbooth, It is too early to say whether Nick has got in or not, the numbers are very very close. Could be another week or so until the final result is in for SA. I hope he gets in, probably one of the hardest working Pollies we have seen in many years. I have no doubt he will be making some time to meet with Mr Truss
And as has been highlighted, the IOS are watching proceedings very closely. Any failure to stick to policy, to comply with promised changes or if there are lies and deception banded around in typical political fashion will be met with criticism, exposure, group action and the occasional fax from the Gobbledock.
Mr Truss has inherited a toffee coated turd. But there is no toffee left on it and all he now has is the ****. Time to get out that big shovel Wazza!
P.S Warren, as you are now inheriting a new office please contact Mr John McCormack for advice on decore and pot plants. John can recommend a good arborist and Chief Accountant Dolan can provide costing and a budget for the acquisition of said plants.
And as has been highlighted, the IOS are watching proceedings very closely. Any failure to stick to policy, to comply with promised changes or if there are lies and deception banded around in typical political fashion will be met with criticism, exposure, group action and the occasional fax from the Gobbledock.
Mr Truss has inherited a toffee coated turd. But there is no toffee left on it and all he now has is the ****. Time to get out that big shovel Wazza!
P.S Warren, as you are now inheriting a new office please contact Mr John McCormack for advice on decore and pot plants. John can recommend a good arborist and Chief Accountant Dolan can provide costing and a budget for the acquisition of said plants.
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FFS! Your research is usually impeccable lad! The xylophone has outpolled the ALP, and is challenging the Libs for king of the castle bragging rights. He is back, resoundingly, has probably knocked off one of the 'faceless men' and may bring another with him. Yaay for Nick, I say.
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Sorry ozaggie, I've been in the air more than on the ground in the past few days. I didn't want to 'go off prematurely' as it isn't 110% official and on paper, but yes it is looking very very good for Nick
Folks,
Senator Xenophon polled nearly two quotas, his re-election was never in doubt.
Senator Fawcett is half way through a six year term, and was not up for election.
Tootle pip!!
Senator Xenophon polled nearly two quotas, his re-election was never in doubt.
Senator Fawcett is half way through a six year term, and was not up for election.
Tootle pip!!
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Mr Snowden and Mr Truss, please remember, or get yourself up to date, with what the NT owes everyone in GA in the Territory. The Territory could not exist without GA.
Please look after all these wonderful folk.
Please look after all these wonderful folk.
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A note to Ppruners:
If you wish to get Mr. Truss or the new Liberal government to do anything at all about aviation, especially GA, there are three themes that you must remorslessly pound day and night and nothing else:
1. Jobs
2. Growth.
3. Investment.
DO NOT whinge abour regulation, taxation, and depreciation, the state of aerodromes, training, etc. etc. on their own.
You do it with examples and the theme must always be:
1. We are losing jobs, economic growth and investment opportunities because of (insert complaint) - then cite your examples.
2. We could have more jobs, economic growth and investment if (insert suggested change) - then cite your examples.
3. If the government were to (insert idea) it would generate more jobs, economic growth and investment.
4. The Government must not proceed with (insert CASA proposal) because it will cost jobs, reduce growth and stop investment in this vital sector of the economy then cite your examples.
5. This proposed change will not increase safety but will cost jobs, growth and investment.
It is also vital to put real numbers of jobs and investment $ into your proposal if you can, because this then allows public servants to write a more convincing brief to the Minister as in:
"This proposed action has the potential to (increase/decrease) jobs and investment by XXX and $$$ per annum"
If you do not keep hitting this mantra all the time you are wasting your breath.
If you wish to get Mr. Truss or the new Liberal government to do anything at all about aviation, especially GA, there are three themes that you must remorslessly pound day and night and nothing else:
1. Jobs
2. Growth.
3. Investment.
DO NOT whinge abour regulation, taxation, and depreciation, the state of aerodromes, training, etc. etc. on their own.
You do it with examples and the theme must always be:
1. We are losing jobs, economic growth and investment opportunities because of (insert complaint) - then cite your examples.
2. We could have more jobs, economic growth and investment if (insert suggested change) - then cite your examples.
3. If the government were to (insert idea) it would generate more jobs, economic growth and investment.
4. The Government must not proceed with (insert CASA proposal) because it will cost jobs, reduce growth and stop investment in this vital sector of the economy then cite your examples.
5. This proposed change will not increase safety but will cost jobs, growth and investment.
It is also vital to put real numbers of jobs and investment $ into your proposal if you can, because this then allows public servants to write a more convincing brief to the Minister as in:
"This proposed action has the potential to (increase/decrease) jobs and investment by XXX and $$$ per annum"
If you do not keep hitting this mantra all the time you are wasting your breath.
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Or ….
You could focus your energy on the people who will have the most leverage. Come 1 July 2014, the non-major party aligned Senators will have the balance of power in the Senate.
Lobbying them should be the main game for anyone with smarts who wants to bring about real change in aviation regulation and accident investigation in Australia. (In another thread Plovett suggested that the new non-major partly aligned Senators should be lobbied to follow Senator X’s lead on matters aviation. That’s smart.)
You could focus your energy on the people who will have the most leverage. Come 1 July 2014, the non-major party aligned Senators will have the balance of power in the Senate.
Lobbying them should be the main game for anyone with smarts who wants to bring about real change in aviation regulation and accident investigation in Australia. (In another thread Plovett suggested that the new non-major partly aligned Senators should be lobbied to follow Senator X’s lead on matters aviation. That’s smart.)
Lobby by all means creamy, but you must hit the jobs, growth and investment buttons each time or you will be seen as just another whinger with nothing useful to say.
To put that another way, no one will do SFA without. Good reasons because even the independents will be busy as hell. Jobs growth and investment will ring their bells. Elaborate stories of injustice, petty grievances and unfairness will just switch everyone off no matter what you think.
You have to present to anyone and everyone in Government as a positive person who wants to make a positive contribution to the country.. If you cannot do this then watch the eyes just glaze over.
To put that another way, no one will do SFA without. Good reasons because even the independents will be busy as hell. Jobs growth and investment will ring their bells. Elaborate stories of injustice, petty grievances and unfairness will just switch everyone off no matter what you think.
You have to present to anyone and everyone in Government as a positive person who wants to make a positive contribution to the country.. If you cannot do this then watch the eyes just glaze over.
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The non-major party aligned Senators need only to be sent one, simple message by lots of people:
On matters aviation, please follow and support Senator X’s lead.
All of the empty rhetoric about jobs, investment and growth is one of the reasons for the informal and non-major party vote being at an all-time high.
On matters aviation, please follow and support Senator X’s lead.
All of the empty rhetoric about jobs, investment and growth is one of the reasons for the informal and non-major party vote being at an all-time high.
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Dead wrong cream puff. I wrote Two years worth of Ministerial Briefs for a former liberal state government and I know of what I speak.
Unless you have something positive to propose, all you will get from the new minister is one of two letters: " I have referred your excellent suggestion to CASA" or "the matter you have raised involves questions of law and I have therefore referred it to the attorney general".
If you want to be heard and effective, make a simple proposal that is easily within the ministers power to action that will make him and his department look good for little effort.
Entreaties about "stopping the reform process" will receive exactly the same attention as a plea to repeal the law of gravity.
Try and think of a few very simple things that could be easily done that would be welcomed by everyone then propose them one by one. You enemies are complexity and obfuscation.
Unless you have something positive to propose, all you will get from the new minister is one of two letters: " I have referred your excellent suggestion to CASA" or "the matter you have raised involves questions of law and I have therefore referred it to the attorney general".
If you want to be heard and effective, make a simple proposal that is easily within the ministers power to action that will make him and his department look good for little effort.
Entreaties about "stopping the reform process" will receive exactly the same attention as a plea to repeal the law of gravity.
Try and think of a few very simple things that could be easily done that would be welcomed by everyone then propose them one by one. You enemies are complexity and obfuscation.
Last edited by Sunfish; 12th Sep 2013 at 21:01.
Why on earth would you write to the new Minister? 
Everyone already knows the new Minister’s views: they are published the Coalition’s policy. The new Minister has already been flooded with other people’s views about what’s wrong and what needs to be done to fix it. The new Minister already has access to people ‘in the know’, to find out anything else he wants to know.
If you want to get quick action from the new Minister, best to communicate with the people who will have his sensitive bits in a squirrel grip. And that’s where the non-major party aligned Senators with the balance of power will become very important, on 1 July 2014.
Everyone already knows the new Minister’s views: they are published the Coalition’s policy. The new Minister has already been flooded with other people’s views about what’s wrong and what needs to be done to fix it. The new Minister already has access to people ‘in the know’, to find out anything else he wants to know.
If you want to get quick action from the new Minister, best to communicate with the people who will have his sensitive bits in a squirrel grip. And that’s where the non-major party aligned Senators with the balance of power will become very important, on 1 July 2014.
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If you want to get quick action from the new Minister, best to communicate with the people who will have his sensitive bits in a squirrel grip.