New Air Traffic Control System Secrecy?
Pavement, the only hardware upgrade of particular significance was to the computers (servers and workstations) and that was how many years ago? There will be no more as Alpha processors are long gone. That is one big reason we need something new.
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Yes the Alpha chip has been gone since 2007 (effectively some years before that) but that does not limit you to a full blown system replacement.
Any ATC wants the best and greatest system. It may also be the case that everything is about to fall apart - Im not privy to the ins and outs of both systems. What Im asking is what will be delivered for a not insubstantial amount of money.
I could be wrong and there may be real benefits. Throw the business case out there.
Do I care? Not really as I'll be soaking up my pension by 2020.
Any ATC wants the best and greatest system. It may also be the case that everything is about to fall apart - Im not privy to the ins and outs of both systems. What Im asking is what will be delivered for a not insubstantial amount of money.
I could be wrong and there may be real benefits. Throw the business case out there.
Do I care? Not really as I'll be soaking up my pension by 2020.
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With the $1.2 Billion written of by the Canberra bureaucracy on the Super Seasprite tender I hope this will be different.
I notice no one was ever held accountable for that.
What happened to those people- were they all promoted?
I notice no one was ever held accountable for that.
What happened to those people- were they all promoted?
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Shouldn't we just go to one system. That is get the military to run it all. That's got to save money for the industry - as the RAAF don't charge ASA or the industry at the present time- just continue with that!
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C'mon Dick, of course those people were promoted or at the very least moved to another department on equal pay. Again I say that you of all people should know how the system works, you worked for CASA mate, c'mon don't be shy, don't feign innocence 
And Dick, don't forget the other billion dollar white elephants that came in with a bang and great fanfare, the billion dollar pink bats scheme, billion dollar BER folly, then you have $5 billion handed to the IMF to help bail out Greece - the land where tax avoidance is a national pass time, multi billion dollar Collins submarines fiasco, and of course a modest $200 million in chump change spent on failed regulatory reform, close to a billion spent on ASA infrastructure and then the CEO jumps ship to the very company they got the majority of that tender, and the endless list continues etc etc etc.....
And Dick, don't forget the other billion dollar white elephants that came in with a bang and great fanfare, the billion dollar pink bats scheme, billion dollar BER folly, then you have $5 billion handed to the IMF to help bail out Greece - the land where tax avoidance is a national pass time, multi billion dollar Collins submarines fiasco, and of course a modest $200 million in chump change spent on failed regulatory reform, close to a billion spent on ASA infrastructure and then the CEO jumps ship to the very company they got the majority of that tender, and the endless list continues etc etc etc.....
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Dick, why don't you put together a consortium to bid on the system.
No way.
4 Greens - from what I understand the RAAF's requirement for 11 remote towers and 9 TCUs was all too much for the builders of TAAATS at that time. Apparently they didn't bid as they were having enough trouble with Airservices' remote locations.
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