Newbie & Flying Training Advice (Merged)

[Micheal Mo]

the best flight school for obtaining PPL

Good evening

I am Michael. I am keen on aviation so I am now planing to obtain the PPL from Australia but there are many flight schools in Australia. i am confused about which one is good or bad; therefore is there anyone who can give me some recommendation? my budget is under AUD$26000(not including accommodation)


thank you very much

[jorget]

Brisbane and Gold Coast Flying Schools Advise

Hello everyone,
I'm looking at schools in Gold coast and brisbane to get my CPL and MEIFR I have applied for two of them BASAIR and AAA haven't got any acceptance letters yet, as I'm going for the VET FEE Option I only applied in those two.
I found GC schools are cheaper than Brisbane, schools like Air Goldcoast and wings Academy, just wondering if there's anyone who went aND trained there can give me some advice on these 4 Schools or what's the word about them, i found some post on the Internet but they are not very current.
I appreciated any help, thank you.

[Bomber ARIS]

Best Instrument Rating provider in Melbourne

Hello all,

As the title suggests, I'm looking to do an MEA Instrument Rating in Melbourne and am after advice as to the 'best' provider.

In particular, I'm looking for a really solid ground school foundation. I have passed my IREX, but want a thorough grounding in the practical aspects of instrument flying, e.g. calculating terrain clearance for OEI departures, etc.

Thanks for any and all advice.

[mcgrath50]

Steve Pearce at Peter Bini Advanced Flight training. An old salt who has forgotten more about twin IFR than I will ever know.

[Old Akro]

The best school is the one that has the instructor that you get on well with. Do the leg work and meet some.

I would suggest that once you've ticked the IREX box, the best learning is in the air or by yourself developing wx forecast reading skills and becoming very, very familiar with the charts and the GPS you will fly. Practice with an online simulator.

Right now; I'd decide if you are going to go the AsA route or Jepp route and whether you will go paper or iPad. The training you do will entrench this choice. If you go iPad, then get sorted with battery backup, external bluetooth GPS unit, kneepad / holders, etc. Choose your program and become fluent with it. IMHO Avplan is a better IFR program than OZrunways, but I prefer Jepp charts, so I have Avplan for flight planning & Jeppview for flying procedures. There is no good reason for this. Its just what I like. In flight Jeppesen Flitedeck is best, but it needs a windows based tablet and it all becomes harder than iPads (I carry a dedicated mini plus my day to day big one as backup).

There are less school / instructor options now under the new part 61 licence rules. Some of the best guys have not bothered to maintain their test officer status and others have effectively "closed their books" and are not taking new students. Thanks CASA. Another step forward.

This is especially so if you need to hire a twin. If you don't have a twin endorsement or limited twin time, remember that the aircraft type you do the MECIR rating in will be the easiest aircraft type to hire / be insured in. Its best to do the training in an aircraft type you will fly.

In alphabetic order; start by visiting Bini, MFS & Vortex.

[fizflyer]

best instrument provider in melbourne

speaking from my own training, Steve Pearce at Bini's, is the greatest. Kind person, exceptionally knowledgeable, still writes the ifr quiz questions for the Flight Safety Magazine (i think), and puts you at ease to learn. I remembered saying to him at my yearly renewals that its like seeing your annual dentist checkup, but I always came out without pain and smiling for another year.
Difficulty is he,s so booked up you may not be able to be instructed by him, probably by other instructors??
good luck

[Bomber ARIS]

Thanks so much for the quality responses.

I have a little single-engine IF experience from overseas, and can/could generally keep the aircraft the right way up. I also have a twin endorsement on a Duchess from what seems like a thousand years ago, not sure how much use that will be.

I am already equipped with iPad + OzRunways, so will probably just lazily continue with AsA unless there is a compelling reason to switch.

Old Akro, you mention the subsequent hiring of a twin. I hadn't actually thought that far ahead, but it is a great point. I had assumed all the available training aircraft would be much of a muchness; is there one that is safer, or faster, or cheaper.......or EASIER FOR THE TEST!?

Thanks again for the shared wisdom

[Old Akro]

EASIER FOR THE TEST!

An aeroplane is an aeroplane. Its what you are familiar with. You'll find the schools will have Partenavia's, Travelairs or Seminole's as options.

Twin's are not all that easy to hire - especially with low twin time. Your options are likely to be either the school you use or Blue Demon. Thats why I suggest thinking about what aircraft you want to hire then using the MECIR training to build hours on type.

[john_tullamarine]

Years ago, I did most of my training for the rating on an Aztruck and then switched to the Partenavia (can't quite recall what the reason was).


However, the Partenavia was a delight to handfly and a breeze to operate for the test.

The DCA examiner was well known to me and gave me a good working over - all good fun - I think the autopilot "failed" shortly after the first takeoff.


Suggest you do the rating test on the Partenavia and then worry about fancier machines in which the throttles have some relationship to the airspeed and the wheels go up and down.

[Stationair8]

Partenavia-Italian for induction icing.


Aztec-love pumping them wheels up with an EFATO, unless it has dual hydraulic pumps.

[Centaurus]

e.g. calculating terrain clearance for OEI departures, etc.

You need a specialist performance engineer in individual runway analysis chart design for that sort of stuff. You won't get that in general aviation as it is normally aircraft type specific and the analysis would need to cover each obstacle liable to encroach the planned flight path including curved departures if needed for terrain reasons.

[The name is Porter]

Steve Pearce, Bini's. A practical, no nonsense instructor.

[Ganjesh]

Indian pilot for jobs in australia/newzealand

Hello,
My name is Ganesh and I'm an Indian citizen. I hold a FAA CPL with no work experience. I'm 32 yrs old and have done a lotta odd jobs in the meantime and would like to put my foot down and get into aviation. Eventually, I would like to migrate to australia/new Zealand.

If I studied instructor rating in either of the countries help me in getting a job as an instructor in a flying school? Or is there any other possibilities.
I appreciate any information that will help. Either post IR comments here or you could email me.

Thanks a ton.

[The Green Goblin]

No chance.

If a labor government ever gets back into power, you'd have more chance arriving by boat and claiming asylum.

[radiodude]

So what happens to all of the Indian students that learn to fly in Australia? I'm assuming they don't stay and work in the industry?

[donpizmeov]

I am not sure how much it is to buy a job in Jetstar these days, but it has both NZ and Australian bases. Could well be worth a look.

[ZKSUJ]

For NZ if you are not a citizen or PR then forget it. Being a pilot with out any major selling points will not get you a work permit here

[Wizofoz]

That's the rub- unfortunately your age puts you outside the working visa window, so the main trouble is gaining residency- as has been said, a simple CPL is not enough to gain entry as a skilled migrant.

Do you have any other qualifications?

[maesaithwameh]

Originally Posted by tweetytheexcel

I know of two full time oportunities in both countries that have been advertised by for over 6months and as yet unfilled. I also know of several other opportunities for hour building that are taken up by Europeans every year without visa's because Aussies just don't have the drive.

Tell that to the many newbie pilots looking for their first jobs in the hot and humid NT and WA.

[neville_nobody]

Really? And where is this magical place that Australian pilots are to lazy to work?