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Old 1st Jul 2020, 14:56
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Hevilift Cadetship

https://hevilift.com/job/cadet-pilot...ane-full-time/

Just incase there wasnít already enough of a shortage of work!
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Old 2nd Jul 2020, 11:12
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NEWBIE TO FLIGHT TRAINING, NEED HELP
Hello everyone, i am a current year 12 student hoping to start my flight training next year 2021, i have done a fair amount of research but i still have a lot of questions. I am located in NSW but don't mind going anywhere to train.

Currently i have a few options:
1) Qantas group pilot academy
2) UNSW
3) Griffith university
4) Flight training Adelaide

WHICH OPTION WOULD BE THE BEST FOR ME? My ultimate goal is to become a large airline pilot such as Qantas or Jetstar, i however am well aware this process will take a long time.

QUESTIONS:
1) Successful selection into the Qantas program is difficulty, any tips on getting selected? (high school results, flying hours, millitary experience)
2) Universities are seen as a bad option as they take too long, should i listen to this advice or pursuit university studies at Griffith or UNSW over a private flight school?
3) IS THERE REALLY A PILOT SHORTAGE?
4) Upon graduating at Griffith, do you obtain: PPL, CPL, ME CIR, ATPL?
5) Universities have the Qantas Future Pilot program, approximately how many student get selected to become Qantas pilots?

It would be really appreciated if these questions could be answered.
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Old 4th Jul 2020, 02:30
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Medical class 1 aus

Hi can someone help me with a class 1 issue with restrictions with a lazy eye.
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Old 6th Jul 2020, 12:09
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Nilana,

Not to be unpleasant but have you seen the state of the world and the industry right now? I would be pursuing something else entirely and then watching how things unfold over the next few years. Sadly itís not likely to improve anytime soon.
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Old 6th Jul 2020, 13:00
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Originally Posted by NilanaD View Post
NEWBIE TO FLIGHT TRAINING, NEED HELP
Hello everyone, i am a current year 12 student hoping to start my flight training next year 2021, i have done a fair amount of research but i still have a lot of questions. I am located in NSW but don't mind going anywhere to train.

Currently i have a few options:
1) Qantas group pilot academy
2) UNSW
3) Griffith university
4) Flight training Adelaide

WHICH OPTION WOULD BE THE BEST FOR ME? My ultimate goal is to become a large airline pilot such as Qantas or Jetstar, i however am well aware this process will take a long time.

QUESTIONS:
1) Successful selection into the Qantas program is difficulty, any tips on getting selected? (high school results, flying hours, millitary experience)
2) Universities are seen as a bad option as they take too long, should i listen to this advice or pursuit university studies at Griffith or UNSW over a private flight school?
3) IS THERE REALLY A PILOT SHORTAGE?
4) Upon graduating at Griffith, do you obtain: PPL, CPL, ME CIR, ATPL?
5) Universities have the Qantas Future Pilot program, approximately how many student get selected to become Qantas pilots?

It would be really appreciated if these questions could be answered.
Iíll have a crack at the limited answers I can supply! Haha!

1) No idea about the QF academy but as far as school goes;
- finish Year 12
- passes in English, Maths B, Physics, Chemistry
That will set you up well no matter where you go in life. In the past these have been minimum requirements for some airlines and the RAAF

2) I went the self funded aero club path so canít comment on the good/bad of University training. HOWEVER, all the naysayers on here will tell you now is a bad time to start training. So perhaps a course that finishes in 3 years could be an advantage in this current climate...

3) There has never been a Ďpilot shortageí. There has however been a shortage of experienced pilots. Basically with a CPL and IR you are all but useless to any employer. However once you get a +1000 hours and/or some turbine time, all of a sudden you will find doors start to open. Get a licence and get a job, after that youíll find it easier, the first job is the hardest.

4) no idea. Check the website perhaps?

5) Again no idea. But given the current state of the industry, think about what YOU would do if you finish your training and QF arenít hiring cadets?? During the GFC (2008) Qantas cadets were told Ďwe donít need youí, some of them waited 8-10 years for QF to call with a job offer.

A jet job with JQ/QF/VA may be the dream goal, but how are you going to get there? If you miss out on a Cadetship, you need to be ready to move north to find charter work or spend more $$$ to get an instructor rating and hope for work down south. Build the hours in GA and then apply to an airline once you have 1-2000 hours.
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Old 6th Jul 2020, 18:03
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Originally Posted by Phillip19922 View Post
Hi can someone help me with a class 1 issue with restrictions with a lazy eye.
if you donít get an answer here talk to Dr Hooke https://aopa.com.au/pilot-medical-support-panel-update/
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Old 12th Jul 2020, 05:02
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should I enrol into AUSTRALIAN WINGS ACADEMY

I am considering enrolling into Australian wings academy next year (2021) and I have seen a few negative threads but that was a long time ago. I would like to become an airline pilot one day hopefully for Qantas and Jetstar and despite Covid-19 the industry will bounce back. My question is:

Should I enrol into Australian Wings Academy?
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Old 12th Jul 2020, 12:44
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Getting a Degree Before Becoming a Pilot

I am finishing my HSC this year and I would like to become a commercial pilot but I am unsure on if I should get a degree for essentially just a backup option for a career before I go onto becoming a pilot. I have been looking at degrees however nothing other than being a pilot interests me. I live in the Newcastle area so was looking at Hunter Valley Aviation Full-time diploma of aviation which is part of the BASAIR aviation college which I would need to be 18 on commencement but I am still 17 until mid-2021 so that was another reason for doing a degree in between. Some of the questions that I would like to know are;

1. Is it worth doing a 3-4 year degree at Newcastle Uni in something I'm not exactly interested in like Computer Science in this time between finishing school and doing flight training?

2. Is it worth getting a degree now if I will be a pilot and the degree will become outdated by the time I may need to use it and I feel it will be a waste of time?

3. Another thing I think about is should I just do a degree and work in an industry I'm not currently interested in that pays well and just fly privately? So basically passion vs salary however pilot would eventually pay well in time?

4. Then another option is doing a Bachelor of Aviation degree (or RMIT Associate Degree) and Graduate Diploma/Certificate which I would prefer doing than another degree by moving elsewhere where it brings me the problem of not having the funds to live?
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Old 12th Jul 2020, 23:44
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Number 3.

Progress your CPL while getting paid to work.
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Old 17th Jul 2020, 21:29
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Itís a shame if thatís the case as Bruce Hartwig (sadly recently passed away) was one of the nicest guys you could ever have the pleasure to meet.

(Hartwig Air was formerly Bruce Hartwig Flying School, and Bruce went to work for FTA as a ground school instructor who flew as well, and was particularly helpful to people who needed a little extra knowledge to get them through their training.)

What sort of thing are they up to?
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Old 18th Jul 2020, 02:21
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Old 18th Jul 2020, 07:45
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Old 19th Jul 2020, 03:08
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Good advice above, however, Iíll add that if you do go down the degree path, perhaps consider doing something non-aviation, you never know when you might need to change direction at short notice. Wish I had!
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Old 21st Jul 2020, 09:16
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Question Which University or Flight School for CPL in Melbourne

Hi everyone, I'm looking to eventually have a career in aviation and am having a hard time deciding between the option of doing a Bachelors Degree in Aviation (either Swinburne or RMIT, both seem to have partnerships with airlines) or simply a diploma of Aviation (CPL). I don't have rich parents to pay out of pocket, so I'm somewhat limited in options that will have FEE-HELP cover the cost of the 150 hours in obtaining a CPL.

Other than RMIT and Swinburne, the Royal Victorian Aero Club looks like a great option.

Let me know what your thoughts are on what are my best options, would love to hear from Melbourne pilots about your journey in becoming a pilot.
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Old 3rd Sep 2020, 04:53
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Military flying clubs for training?

Hey all, first time post.

I'm a member of the ADF in non-aviation employment. Pre-Military days I recall people telling me about their own 'good old days' where by if you were a RAAFie you had the option of getting your PPL free or discounted or when the pilots proper just got given some GA aircraft to keep their hours up. After day dreaming about an RPL/PPL for sometime, the thought of this just popped into my head again. So after a little research I've come across a few RAAF flying clubs who's membership seems to only be open to ADF members - after doing some extremely basic arithmetic their costs appear to be nearly half or even a quarter of what a commercial aviation school would offer (not incl. testing, exams, etc). The catch appears that their might be a waiting list for training, they operate from military airbases and that they (rightfully so) operate at non or low-operational hours for the priority military traffic - Thereby limiting flying to weekends. All of these are things I don't care about or have access too.

Does anyone have any experience with Military flying clubs to get their non-professional licence?
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Old 22nd Sep 2020, 21:56
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Old 28th Sep 2020, 08:36
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Hi peoples,

Have a keen sense of adventure right now and would be excited to pack the car and go job hunting in the N.T. Except I'm not sure what the prospects are in the current market. And would it be a bit too late now as we are heading into the wet?

Thanks
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Old 28th Sep 2020, 11:05
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Hi Kundry,
It has worked well in the past but then isn't now. How are the travel restrictions? Is there any demand for GA flying?
I'd make some phone calls first before risking it.
Make sure you've got every thing current. You might be on the ground for a while.
Get things like Dangerous Goods (if required), First Aid certificates, Driver's licence for larger vehicles (eg minibus).
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Old 5th Oct 2020, 14:27
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Reputable Flying School Northern Victoria

Hi,
Can anyone please help me and recommend a good flying school in Northern Victoria. I am quite young and new to aviation but really enjoy it. I completed some lessons at a Moorabbin flying school prior to Covid. It was ok however I live and work in the Kilmore district and it is a nightmare travelling to Moorabbin. I am not really interested in large flying schools and am keen on smaller schools with experienced instructors. Thanks in advance for any replies
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Old 5th Oct 2020, 19:57
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I hear good things about Gawne Aviation in Shepparton.
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