Do you put photos in your log book?
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Do you put photos in your log book?
I think this thread may raise some debate.
The reason I ask is this;
I was at a family function some time ago and present was a great uncle of mine who flew long range liberators in the 2nd world war.
He proudly recited nearly every mission or flight from his log book with a story of such fascination and recollection of nerve breaking events.
My log book shows 1500 return trips SY-ML, 2000 return trips PH to various places. Its the same every line and page of my log book??
Try explaining each of those flights to your children?
So I have noticed friends of mine overtime might slide a few photos next to trips, for example a time you got bogged at some mine strip or you with your favourite aircraft. They say it gives the log book some 'expression'
SO Here's the question,
Do people do it, glue them in? At an interview would this look silly..
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The reason I ask is this;
I was at a family function some time ago and present was a great uncle of mine who flew long range liberators in the 2nd world war.
He proudly recited nearly every mission or flight from his log book with a story of such fascination and recollection of nerve breaking events.
My log book shows 1500 return trips SY-ML, 2000 return trips PH to various places. Its the same every line and page of my log book??
Try explaining each of those flights to your children?
So I have noticed friends of mine overtime might slide a few photos next to trips, for example a time you got bogged at some mine strip or you with your favourite aircraft. They say it gives the log book some 'expression'
SO Here's the question,
Do people do it, glue them in? At an interview would this look silly..
C2H5OH
Last edited by CAPTAIN-C2H5OH; 28th Jul 2013 at 00:19.
I do, and so do many others I know.
It is not just about where you have flown, but what (I still proudly look at the logbook photos of the 206 I flew 35 years ago), and also with whom. Sadly, a few (in fact a few too many) of the people with whom I have flown are no longer around. I am glad that I have photos of them. Likewise, a few companies I have flown more (......maybe it is me?) no longer exist, so it is nice to have a pictorial record of the planes and people.
If I was an interviewer (extremely unlikely scenario), I would be impressed, because to me this would seem to be someone who is at least interested in his/her job. In interviews I have attended, it does not appear to have done me any harm, and a few interviewers have asked questions about particular aircraft or places.
My log book shows 1500 return trips SY-ML, 2000 return trips PH to various places. Its the same every line and page of my log book?
At an interview would this look silly.
If something interesting happens I put in red pen, eg 'Cracked Windshield'.
That way as you are thumbing through the pages it jolts your memory and you remember the story.
That way as you are thumbing through the pages it jolts your memory and you remember the story.
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Yes, it's a great thing to do and I highly recommend it!
I have taped many into my logbooks and it helps substantiate (by being in the picture) the flight times abit, along with Airline Verification Stamps.
There are many in VB etc whom I know have fake logbook time/"BIC time", with which this would be a problem for them to do. Sadly the Pre-Employment Logbook Check did not catch them out as lairs, as it is done few and far between now-days (Thanks to the wisdom of HR).
In interviews I have had it was a bonus and created conversation points, as aircraft Regos, cockpits and places were recognised by the panel.
I agree with Chimbu's comments and can add that it's been quite entertaining, sometimes reflective, when looking back through them... it adds life to what is every moment you've carried out in this changing industry.
Happy snapping :-)
I have taped many into my logbooks and it helps substantiate (by being in the picture) the flight times abit, along with Airline Verification Stamps.
There are many in VB etc whom I know have fake logbook time/"BIC time", with which this would be a problem for them to do. Sadly the Pre-Employment Logbook Check did not catch them out as lairs, as it is done few and far between now-days (Thanks to the wisdom of HR).
In interviews I have had it was a bonus and created conversation points, as aircraft Regos, cockpits and places were recognised by the panel.
I agree with Chimbu's comments and can add that it's been quite entertaining, sometimes reflective, when looking back through them... it adds life to what is every moment you've carried out in this changing industry.
Happy snapping :-)
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I put photos in my log book. To date I have only put photos of aircraft in them; I am on my fourth log book, and I only put the photos in once I have started on the new book.
Personally I don't want photos of people in my logbook, or airports etc, but don't think it would matter if it was relevant i.e you standing next to the instructor who sent you on your first solo with the aircraft in the background.
Logbooks are legal documents and nowhere in the law does it say it must not have photos in them.
As far as what an interviewer or organisation might think, I don't know. But again I don't think it would not be a deal breaker or maker in an interview.
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Personally I don't want photos of people in my logbook, or airports etc, but don't think it would matter if it was relevant i.e you standing next to the instructor who sent you on your first solo with the aircraft in the background.
Logbooks are legal documents and nowhere in the law does it say it must not have photos in them.
As far as what an interviewer or organisation might think, I don't know. But again I don't think it would not be a deal breaker or maker in an interview.
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Yep I sure do. In my opinion, a log book is also a diary, so a few photos of different aircraft and locations is a good thing. Brings up a point of conversation in an interview!
I have relevant photos of "special" flights / aircraft / people in my logbooks as discussed above.
As someone who does his fair share of interviews, I find it rare among the younger pilots to do so (maybe they don't think first solo is relevant, but I certainly recall Ngaire Moxley of RQAC sending me on mine in C152 VH-HCC...), but reasonably common amongst older pilots (maybe we appreciate these things more with time?).
When I see such photos in a logbook , often I use it as a discussion point to get the candidate to open up and speak about a topic comfortable to them. I certainly don't view it negatively, but having said that, a pic on every page would be excessive!
By way of example of how inportant this really is from a career history perspective, I have the honour of possessing my uncle's logbook from WW2 - during which he flew Hampdens in operations over Germany (some nights over 8 hrs logged...) and in the hunt for the German battleship "Tirpitz" - there are no photos, but the notes in the book tell a tale (he even glued in his course reports - apparently he needed more work on rudder use and bombing skills were "average"!). Unfortunately, with the princely total of just under 400 hrs, his last entry contains a tail number, crew detail and no flight time - his FLTCOMD has endorsed the entry as "Aircraft failed to return". The book tells a tale that the man was never able to...
As someone who does his fair share of interviews, I find it rare among the younger pilots to do so (maybe they don't think first solo is relevant, but I certainly recall Ngaire Moxley of RQAC sending me on mine in C152 VH-HCC...), but reasonably common amongst older pilots (maybe we appreciate these things more with time?).
When I see such photos in a logbook , often I use it as a discussion point to get the candidate to open up and speak about a topic comfortable to them. I certainly don't view it negatively, but having said that, a pic on every page would be excessive!
By way of example of how inportant this really is from a career history perspective, I have the honour of possessing my uncle's logbook from WW2 - during which he flew Hampdens in operations over Germany (some nights over 8 hrs logged...) and in the hunt for the German battleship "Tirpitz" - there are no photos, but the notes in the book tell a tale (he even glued in his course reports - apparently he needed more work on rudder use and bombing skills were "average"!). Unfortunately, with the princely total of just under 400 hrs, his last entry contains a tail number, crew detail and no flight time - his FLTCOMD has endorsed the entry as "Aircraft failed to return". The book tells a tale that the man was never able to...
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nothing but tacho time in my log book.
I love the ICAO format licence holder though.
all those spare wallets in the back have photos in them.
I love the ICAO format licence holder though.
all those spare wallets in the back have photos in them.
Topic drift: I wish Oz would go back to the credit card format licence. The U.S. does OK with it. If Oz has to have a booklet style then the old, pre-card format was better. Not so bulky and the cloth bound cover didn't look so cheap & nasty.
