Drones in Australia (UAV/UAS)
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Via Fliegenmong:
...well you didn't think an Aust. LNP gummint would be wise to that did you Binghi???
...well you didn't think an Aust. LNP gummint would be wise to that did you Binghi???
Wonder how long it will take the Chinese to make a little submersible bomb drone, say 10kg, fly the An-225 over the general area of the noisy old diesel sub and with a payload of say 10,000 submersible drones just saturate the area until there are some oily bubbles...
What sort of idiots order a diesel powered submarine in the 21st century.
Makes yer wonder is turnBull getting a kick-back from the French manufacturer..
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Last time I checked with my mates in the submariner corps, diesels were still quieter than nuclear boats, the difference is the underwater endurance, ie the diesels have to snorkel to run the engines and re-charge batteries. So it comes down to who has the greater endurance, the sub or the surface fleet, can the sub float away quietly in the current - under an inversion layer - before the surface fleet with their drones pull up stumps?? Just slightly off topic here btw
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The iranians are pushing ahead with their bomb drone developments. Claim to have a drone with a 600 mile range able to carry a heavy payload. Wont be long before irans terrorist friends are using them...
"...it can carry heavy payloads of explosives for combat missions to launch suicide attacks..."
Iran unveils maritime 'suicide drone' | The Times of Israel
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"...it can carry heavy payloads of explosives for combat missions to launch suicide attacks..."
Iran unveils maritime 'suicide drone' | The Times of Israel
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heard a drone operator near Gympie the other day. he was filming a new freeway extension near the airport. no problems. he was 'not above 400". I was not below 1000. no drama at all. what worries me is amateur drone pilots with too much money and no common sense.
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MC here,
I operate a Cessna 172 for aerial mapping and have dipped my toe into UAV's and I'm not seeing any advantages in these machines in our field yet. They will crash ,on average, 3 times a year. Even the expensive ones, they have no redundancy and parts are hobby grade. Their not allowed over populous areas (because they cash 3 times a year?) and the coverage per hour is too low to make a decent buck.
The Yamaha ag copter can't carry enough chemicals etc to be viable yet.
Having said that ,I lost a friend just lately to an ag incident, I guess with the Yamaha , everyone comes home to their family that day if it crashes.
I operate a Cessna 172 for aerial mapping and have dipped my toe into UAV's and I'm not seeing any advantages in these machines in our field yet. They will crash ,on average, 3 times a year. Even the expensive ones, they have no redundancy and parts are hobby grade. Their not allowed over populous areas (because they cash 3 times a year?) and the coverage per hour is too low to make a decent buck.
The Yamaha ag copter can't carry enough chemicals etc to be viable yet.
Having said that ,I lost a friend just lately to an ag incident, I guess with the Yamaha , everyone comes home to their family that day if it crashes.
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As Murray Cod has pointed out there is still a-ways to go with Drone development. - A new manufacturing sector for Oz perhaps ?
From my reading around the traps it seems to me that Oz should go with the Air-Sea drone defence concept. Developing an Oz Drone manufacturing base would be a far better and more useful use of 50 BILLION dollars then buying some obsolete manned submarines. (Submersible Targets)
Drone manufacturing apart from being an industry supporting defence will be a boom for Oz farming, mining, Police, and many others users.
"...As unmanned aerial drones have become a critical part of modern warfare, the Pentagon is now looking to deploy autonomous robots underwater, patrolling the sea floor on what one top Navy official called an “Eisenhower highway network,” complete with rest stops where the drones could recharge.
Although still in the development stages, the technology has matured in recent years to be able to overcome the vast difficulties of operating underwater, a far more harsh environment than what aerial drones face in the sky..."
How are those submarines going to work out? | Catallaxy Files
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From my reading around the traps it seems to me that Oz should go with the Air-Sea drone defence concept. Developing an Oz Drone manufacturing base would be a far better and more useful use of 50 BILLION dollars then buying some obsolete manned submarines. (Submersible Targets)
Drone manufacturing apart from being an industry supporting defence will be a boom for Oz farming, mining, Police, and many others users.
"...As unmanned aerial drones have become a critical part of modern warfare, the Pentagon is now looking to deploy autonomous robots underwater, patrolling the sea floor on what one top Navy official called an “Eisenhower highway network,” complete with rest stops where the drones could recharge.
Although still in the development stages, the technology has matured in recent years to be able to overcome the vast difficulties of operating underwater, a far more harsh environment than what aerial drones face in the sky..."
How are those submarines going to work out? | Catallaxy Files
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"...Lifeguards to drone pilots as class graduates from Australia's first training school..."
Lifeguards to drone pilots as class graduates from Australia's first training school - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
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Lifeguards to drone pilots as class graduates from Australia's first training school - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
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This'll put a smile on a young Osama's face...
From the latest in Drone toys, etc... In the video at the 9.30 mark the enthusiastic presenter sells the kids on a projectile launching drone toy with this comment...
"Imagine the joy of flying around your neighbourhood launching air strikes....."
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f1E9jtE1aAk
Wont be long now.. from toys to terror.....
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From the latest in Drone toys, etc... In the video at the 9.30 mark the enthusiastic presenter sells the kids on a projectile launching drone toy with this comment...
"Imagine the joy of flying around your neighbourhood launching air strikes....."
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f1E9jtE1aAk
Wont be long now.. from toys to terror.....
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Hello! I am engaged in unmanned aircraft in the interests of photogrammetry. And I had a question. What do you think, which set of on-board equipment is ideal for drones? What should it be to perform ALL the main tasks of photogrammetry (land survey)? Here you need to consider the carrying capacity of the drones, of course. For example, a lidar is too heavy for a small compact dron.
Thank you for your advice.
Thank you for your advice.
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Hello! I am engaged in unmanned aircraft in the interests of photogrammetry. And I had a question. What do you think, which set of on-board equipment is ideal for drones? What should it be to perform ALL the main tasks of photogrammetry (land survey)? Here you need to consider the carrying capacity of the drones, of course. For example, a lidar is too heavy for a small compact dron.
Thank you for your advice.
Thank you for your advice.
"...Six Komatsu Australia in house pilots have recently received their ‘wings’ as certified drone operators, allowing for the ability to provide total site solution, site surveying services that are an improvement on ground based alternatives...
https://www.australianmining.com.au/...ite-surveying/
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Annoying drone attacked by athletes...
https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ad6_1506124347
Drone operators wearing pink shirts are just asking for it..
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https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ad6_1506124347
Drone operators wearing pink shirts are just asking for it..
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Try's to sneak some drugs into prison though dingbat leaves the Nav lights on..
"...A drone has been caught on CCTV dropping what appears to be contraband into Lithgow's prison in NSW in a first for the state..."
Drone smuggling contraband into Lithgow prison captured on CCTV - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
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"...A drone has been caught on CCTV dropping what appears to be contraband into Lithgow's prison in NSW in a first for the state..."
Drone smuggling contraband into Lithgow prison captured on CCTV - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
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Threat of massed drone attacks. That were something i wrote about here in pprune several years ago...
"The threat is no longer that of a lone drone, but a flock of drones. ISIS already uses drones not just for surveillance, but also to drop 5kg-bombs," warned Col. (res.) Meir, who heads Rafael's anti-drone department.
"Israel's defense establishment needs to make a decision. The abilities already exist, and the threat is only going to become more serious," he continued.
"We need systems both mobile and stationary, the kind that could protect against drone attacks on sensitive facilities or events attended by the prime minister and other senior officials."
https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,...043733,00.html
So what's our defence here in Australia ?
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"The threat is no longer that of a lone drone, but a flock of drones. ISIS already uses drones not just for surveillance, but also to drop 5kg-bombs," warned Col. (res.) Meir, who heads Rafael's anti-drone department.
"Israel's defense establishment needs to make a decision. The abilities already exist, and the threat is only going to become more serious," he continued.
"We need systems both mobile and stationary, the kind that could protect against drone attacks on sensitive facilities or events attended by the prime minister and other senior officials."
https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,...043733,00.html
So what's our defence here in Australia ?
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Hey Binge, I can see you are desperate to keep this thread of yours alive ....
I recently spent the day at Drone School X where I presented basic radio principals and signed off on AROC and GELP for the participants. What I found was a dedicated class who desperately want to maintain safe drone operations with their expensive toys, a very impressive lot of toys too I might add!
My observation is that the horse has long ago bolted on this issue. I was happy to assist these folk getting their qualifications. It was a fun day and I might also add the pay was good. I look forward to doing more of this work.
Did I mention the drones were impressive .......
I recently spent the day at Drone School X where I presented basic radio principals and signed off on AROC and GELP for the participants. What I found was a dedicated class who desperately want to maintain safe drone operations with their expensive toys, a very impressive lot of toys too I might add!
My observation is that the horse has long ago bolted on this issue. I was happy to assist these folk getting their qualifications. It was a fun day and I might also add the pay was good. I look forward to doing more of this work.
Did I mention the drones were impressive .......
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I watched a guy at the Sydenham community kite festival on Sunday come in and set up his DJI Phantom complete with FPV goggles and range extender, only to fly within 3 miles of a helicopter landing area, amongst kite strings, over a public event with 200+ young children, within 30 metres of a person and using First Person View goggles / not line of sight contrary to the regulations.
I'm all for not needing over regulation and rules in aviation, particularly for hobbies, however the message doesn't appear to be getting through no matter how hard CASA tries. I feel as though it's heading down the path of recreational boat licences, where the only way to stop someone flying is to make them get a licence so that it can be taken off them if needed.
I'm all for not needing over regulation and rules in aviation, particularly for hobbies, however the message doesn't appear to be getting through no matter how hard CASA tries. I feel as though it's heading down the path of recreational boat licences, where the only way to stop someone flying is to make them get a licence so that it can be taken off them if needed.
If people really want to get into saving lives, please get a job with a Transport dept and do something about all those road fatalities.
A CAsA like entity could put 1/3 of the cars off the road. 1/2 the driver numbers and deaths would be way down. And no pvt vehicle servicing either.
And as for paperwork, permits and fees...and strict liability offences...all good, just think of the lives saved.
Those that know best, will save us from ourselves.
A CAsA like entity could put 1/3 of the cars off the road. 1/2 the driver numbers and deaths would be way down. And no pvt vehicle servicing either.
And as for paperwork, permits and fees...and strict liability offences...all good, just think of the lives saved.
Those that know best, will save us from ourselves.
I don't know if this has been posted before but drones are not new. In Louisiana last week looked at ww2 navy destroyer, the "Orlech"?? that was refitted with a helicopter drone in 1962 with two rotors, a little jet turbine, a drone operator to take off and land it on the deck before handing over to CIC who directed it, with a load of small depth charges or torpedoes to its target. I have some photos, which I don't know how to post, but will happily email to anyone who wants to post them. It is a long while from 1962 to 2017 but not much has changed.
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News head line:
Bull's-eye: IAF successfully intercepts target UAV with Patriot missile
From the reader comments section:
"A very expensive way to down a drone. This can bankrupt a country" Michael Garkawe
https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,...medium=organic
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Bump - on Saturday I was witness to some clown first person flying a drone in Class C airspace in Sydney for several kilometres.
What should you do if you see this? I couldn't find the person flying it but they obviously need a good smack in the head.
What should you do if you see this? I couldn't find the person flying it but they obviously need a good smack in the head.
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A conviction is almost impossible if you can't give enough info to definitively identify the "pilot."
I've used it once when it was well and truly warranted. I've got a small drone for fun and have probably come close to breaking a rule but this guy broke 4 all at once.