Air Pacific/Fiji Airways
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Nemesis
Really?
What other operating/ home/ A330 bases (besides the Tanoa) do Fiji have??
THRidle
Why are you stalking the FC guy of the past eleven years
The new guy is a professional male model, which might be more 'up your alley'?
Really?
What other operating/ home/ A330 bases (besides the Tanoa) do Fiji have??
THRidle
Why are you stalking the FC guy of the past eleven years
The new guy is a professional male model, which might be more 'up your alley'?
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Not everyone stays at the T Intl, some have apartments,some have private houses and some stay at the Sofitel at Denaru, it depends who represents you and what deal they can get for you . 
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Bases
Guys,
As "direct hired" you have home base NADI at Tanoa´s
Days off at Nadi
As IAC contracted, you have any Fiji Airways destination as "Home base", Nadi operating based.
"Home base" means that at your 14 days off rotation, you will be dead headed to your home base. During you 42 on days, you will be operating from Nadi.
As "direct hired" you have home base NADI at Tanoa´s
Days off at Nadi
As IAC contracted, you have any Fiji Airways destination as "Home base", Nadi operating based.
"Home base" means that at your 14 days off rotation, you will be dead headed to your home base. During you 42 on days, you will be operating from Nadi.
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Air Pacific F/O command training - no hope unless a local?
Let's cut to the chase here. Anecdotal evidence reveals expatriate first officers joining Air Pacific are informed that company policy is they can never be considered for commands. Only Fiji/Indian nationals passport holders will be promoted to commands.
Is that really true?
Is that really true?
Although racism is rampant in many developing nations (and elsewhere) such a policy is not at all racist. It is driven by politics and economics. Expatriates of any persuasion cost more than locals because they usually earn more money and have accommodation provided etc. The better contracts offer assistance with school fees, and the really enlightened countries offer tax incentives. None of these goodies are available to locals.
When employers want to engage expats, they have to put up a case to immigration to show no suitably qualified or experienced local is available. In some countries there is a significant bond involved to guarantee that the expat will be sent home at the end of contract, or in the event of redundancy.
An expat is hired for his/her experience, not for his/her personal career development. If money must be spent on training to higher qualification, that money is - as it should be - allocated to locals.
Some places, like Singapore, did have policies of upgrading expat pilots from F/O to Captain - but only if they accepted local terms. A few very wealthy places - like the UAE - do provide a career path. Hong Kong is another possibility. But that won't last forever, so get in quick if you want an upgrade.
Expats are generally tolerated only for what they can bring to the company. It is all about what you can do for the country, not what the country can do for you.
A pity we are not as hard-nosed here.
When employers want to engage expats, they have to put up a case to immigration to show no suitably qualified or experienced local is available. In some countries there is a significant bond involved to guarantee that the expat will be sent home at the end of contract, or in the event of redundancy.
An expat is hired for his/her experience, not for his/her personal career development. If money must be spent on training to higher qualification, that money is - as it should be - allocated to locals.
Some places, like Singapore, did have policies of upgrading expat pilots from F/O to Captain - but only if they accepted local terms. A few very wealthy places - like the UAE - do provide a career path. Hong Kong is another possibility. But that won't last forever, so get in quick if you want an upgrade.
Expats are generally tolerated only for what they can bring to the company. It is all about what you can do for the country, not what the country can do for you.
A pity we are not as hard-nosed here.
It's their train set and knowing the ground rules you are not forced to join.
Many National Airlines have similar policies to enable their own countrymen to advance through the ranks.
The career of a contract pilot would be littered with Airlines who cancel a contract at the first hint of a down turn to protect their own National pilots.
Many National Airlines have similar policies to enable their own countrymen to advance through the ranks.
The career of a contract pilot would be littered with Airlines who cancel a contract at the first hint of a down turn to protect their own National pilots.
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Not always the case, Ad-Astra. During the SARS epidemic I was working as a contract pilot in SE Asia. When the airline cancelled 100's of flights per week, the locals were still given 90 hours per week otherwise they would lose their Flight Pay. We expats were doing 2 short sectors every 8 days. If we were laid off, those in charge wouldn't get their kick-back from the contractor. We spent most days sitting in the sun drinking beer around the pool at the Omni Hotel while getting paid full salary. It was great! 
But further to what others have said, 3rd world carriers don't see themselves as training organisations for Western pilots. You would only see an upgrade if there were no suitable locals and they couldn't get a contract captain from somewhere-which is pretty unlikely.
But further to what others have said, 3rd world carriers don't see themselves as training organisations for Western pilots. You would only see an upgrade if there were no suitable locals and they couldn't get a contract captain from somewhere-which is pretty unlikely.
Last edited by Anthill; 21st Oct 2013 at 21:28.
Yes, it is true.
Not only in Fiji Airways, but also PacSun on the ATR fleet. Wrong passport means no chance of progression even if you are on a local contract, being paid the same as the locals.
Not only in Fiji Airways, but also PacSun on the ATR fleet. Wrong passport means no chance of progression even if you are on a local contract, being paid the same as the locals.
Its actually worse than that. You could go to a foreign country fly as a FO, have your command blocked by a local and that same local could then get a command in Australia because you're to inexperienced.
Maybe it's time for the Australian government to start looking after the locals here.
Maybe it's time for the Australian government to start looking after the locals here.
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One case in pac sun, ATR F/O from Vanuatu(Belgian Passport holder) after 2 yrs was upgraded to Capt,still flying in Fiji,not sure whether he got himself a Fiji passport during his time in fiji prior to comd ...................maybe there is light at the end of the tunnel,maybe:confused