MERGED: Jetstar Pilot Cadet Program
Australian airline's love affair with Cadetships might be coming to an end! Or at the very least a rethink on the whole economics of the thing.
The beginning of the end was more than likely the AFAP's successful action in having these people paid equitable wages. Along with the disastrous and ill conceived scam of having the Newbies trained in NZ, and an increase in experienced candidates.
RIP!
The beginning of the end was more than likely the AFAP's successful action in having these people paid equitable wages. Along with the disastrous and ill conceived scam of having the Newbies trained in NZ, and an increase in experienced candidates.
RIP!
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ill conceived scam of having the Newbies trained in NZ
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It's confirmed that at least 2 pilots from a regional airline in AUS have been given a start date within the next few weeks. Anyone else know more? Numbers? Future ground schools? Recruitment plans? This, I believe is the first indication of some long awaited movement
The Cadetship run in accordance with CTC in NZ was an option, the other option has always been the Ab-Initio program with CAE Oxford in Melbourne. How is it a scam, when there's training being conducted in Australia too.....
. I should of said line training on NZ pesos, and inferior conditions. 
Current recruitment ban in force so any start dates are unlikely.
It also explains why direct entry F/O's are being recruited as they only need 100hours of line training and not the 200 that cadets need.
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Where does it say recruitment ban? I can 100% tell you now that at least 2 pilots have confirmed start dates (letters of offer). So what ever recruitment ban you speak of is now non-existent.
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Where does it say recruitment ban? I can 100% tell you now that at least 2 pilots have confirmed start dates (letters of offer). So what ever recruitment ban you speak of is now non-existent.
I was under the impression that its was group policy due to mainline bleeding cash.
Commercial and HR are finally discovering that aeroplanes actually need someone to fly them. So if you bring in extra airframes then you need extra pilots regardless of some arbitrary recruitment ban.
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It also explains why direct entry F/O's are being recruited as they only need 100hours of line training and not the 200 that cadets need.
I think that the 10 commands recently advertised are for additional airframes. If it was just to cover attrition back to QF it wouldn't require a sudden round of recruiting.
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I know the status of the JetStar cadetship has been in the dark for a while now, but finally news from JetStar and CAE Oxford. Looks like it's the end of cadetships for the major Australian airlines, or at least for the "near future". I'm sure many here will be happy.
Jetstar Australia recently reviewed its upcoming recruitment requirements and has confirmed that there is no need to schedule course intakes for the Jetstar Ab Initio Cadet Program in the near future. The March 2015 course intake will not be offered by CAE Oxford Aviation Academy Melbourne.
There was only ever one reason for the cadet program. They were cheaper.
The moment the Feds got their base pay increased and they became as expensive as a direct entry FO with more training, supervision and restrictions, the cadet program was doomed.
I hope there are not too many out there with expensive training and no job.
The moment the Feds got their base pay increased and they became as expensive as a direct entry FO with more training, supervision and restrictions, the cadet program was doomed.
I hope there are not too many out there with expensive training and no job.
Slowly all Big Brucies ideas are being discarded from Jetstar. Cadets, Darwin base, Singapore based A330's. The original cadet scam was to have them based in NZ on NZ pay rates. Once that was found to be illegal it all started to unravel. The pilots who were able to get on board early are now 787 F/O's so it has worked for them. The people who have finished a very expensive course with no job at the end of it will rue the day they trusted anything a Jetstar recruiter told them.
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Exactly the same has happened with the Qlink traineeship, except with probably bigger numbers. Around 50 have completed the incredibly expensive training and then left out to dry as the company hires recently interviewed DE over them (and now no one). Nothing against the DE guys, however I am close to one of the trainees and he has been treated appallingly by the company and now financially ruined.
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If it was available to you I believe a proportion of it could be placed on VET FEE yes, however I don't think that was available to him at the time. There is also still a substantial gap in the funding that they where required to fill even if the government loan was available. $10k for ATPL subjects alone I am told!! This is the CPL entry level course I am talking about.
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So, where is PeterC and that other knob jockey fool boat? Thought it was all great on the cadet thingy.....
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