Wikiposts
Search
The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions The place for students, instructors and charter guys in Oz, NZ and the rest of Oceania.

logging "co-pilot" time

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 24th Dec 2012, 13:09
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Victoria
Posts: 42
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
logging "co-pilot" time

Quick question relating to CAO 40.1.0 and logging of flight time.. Say a flight instructor was in a multi engine plane with no experience with a charter pilot (charter pilot is PIC), what kind of time can the instructor log? My understanding is it cant be "duel" because the PIC is NOT an instructor but it can be logged as "co-pilot" according to paragraph 10.5.. but what is "co-pilot" time, obv its not command or duel so im a bit confused
xxRED BARONxx is offline  
Old 24th Dec 2012, 14:54
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Australia
Posts: 168
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
ME plane with "no experience", cannot log anything unless under instruction. Is this another troll/pisstake?
ZappBrannigan is offline  
Old 24th Dec 2012, 16:00
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Victoria
Posts: 1,483
Received 6 Likes on 3 Posts
The instructor logs nothing at all!
Lasiorhinus is offline  
Old 24th Dec 2012, 16:02
  #4 (permalink)  
pcx
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 107
Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts
No, just another pilot trying to justify logging flight time that he/she is not entitled to.
I wonder why inexperienced pilots don't realize that most experienced chief pilots can see right through this stuff.
It may not mean you don't get the job but it could very well be the difference between getting the job and it going to someone else.
pcx is offline  
Old 24th Dec 2012, 17:32
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 1998
Location: Escapee from Ultima Thule
Posts: 4,273
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Is the instructor a crewmember for the flight? If not then nothing to log. Just because you hold an instructor rating doesn't automatically grant you logging privileges when you happen to be sitting in a control seat.

To be a crewmember on the charter flight you must satisfy the various requirements to be assigned as flight crew. There can regulatory as well as company specified requirements.
Tinstaafl is offline  
Old 24th Dec 2012, 18:55
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Melbourne
Age: 72
Posts: 774
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
My understanding is it cant be "duel" because ............. It doesn't involve pistols at dawn although if you saw the movie, it was tried with balloons and blunderbusses.
fujii is offline  
Old 24th Dec 2012, 20:08
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Mel-burn
Posts: 4,875
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I know someone that logged flight time from Bairnsdale to Essendon as a rear facing passenger in the back of a Seneca . He didn't see an issue with it until his instructor noticed it sitting proudly in his log book.
VH-XXX is offline  
Old 24th Dec 2012, 20:30
  #8 (permalink)  
601
 
Join Date: Mar 1999
Location: Brisbane, Qld, Australia
Age: 78
Posts: 1,477
Received 19 Likes on 14 Posts
I must log all the time I have spent in the back of Viscounts, F27, UH1H, B206, Caribou, B727, DC9, B707, B747, DC10, A380.

Back in the old days, was there not a column for "passenger" in log books?
601 is offline  
Old 24th Dec 2012, 20:43
  #9 (permalink)  
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jan 1996
Location: Utopia
Posts: 7,418
Received 199 Likes on 111 Posts
Wind up alert!
tail wheel is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.