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Who gives a crap about Hardy's get back on topic.
as for DAC....the management of this joint has been running it into the ground for years so no surprises from these c*nts. I dont know many of the current staff except for the sb pilot who is a champ! the original DAC Darwin crew (05-07) are the best bunch of guys/girls i've ever worked with and thankfully they are all long gone. I only know of one pilot who got one up on DAC regarding money and got a free endo out of it but unfortunately everyone else got screwed one way or another.
wasnt there some people who didnt get paid there super either?
I hope ewe dog comes out unscathed.....top guy and it would be a shame if he got dragged down with these f*cks!!!
as for DAC....the management of this joint has been running it into the ground for years so no surprises from these c*nts. I dont know many of the current staff except for the sb pilot who is a champ! the original DAC Darwin crew (05-07) are the best bunch of guys/girls i've ever worked with and thankfully they are all long gone. I only know of one pilot who got one up on DAC regarding money and got a free endo out of it but unfortunately everyone else got screwed one way or another.
wasnt there some people who didnt get paid there super either?
I hope ewe dog comes out unscathed.....top guy and it would be a shame if he got dragged down with these f*cks!!!
If they were not paying staff superannuation they were probably trading insolvent. Set the dogs on the directors. GEERS won't recover your super, so you have to be quick and quite aggressive to have any hope of getting it - assuming that there is any money left, that is.
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LM82 has pretty much mirrored what I'd always heard about DAC. I met most of the guys from 2009-11 era... Don't know any of the guys there now except for the current (I suppose former) SBP.
Really good bunch of guys, and I always heard it was a great place to work, with the usual few GA complaints, and nothing but brilliant things to say about the CP, who I've heard is still there. But also heard the same old rumours about not paying bills, problems with students in Melbourne, etc.
All the best to the guys/girls affected.
Really good bunch of guys, and I always heard it was a great place to work, with the usual few GA complaints, and nothing but brilliant things to say about the CP, who I've heard is still there. But also heard the same old rumours about not paying bills, problems with students in Melbourne, etc.
All the best to the guys/girls affected.
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Re Hardys, these guys are huge, I have recently left as a pilot however the time and effort the family and people in main roles in both operations and C&T put into this place are why they are so good. There has been a few changes over the past year in the managment structure maybe this is why no deputy cheif pilot was made, engineering has been expanded and more managers put on, a new hangar is being used to support the large fleet. One of my friends was brought in as a check and trainer along with a few others at the start if the year to help with new pilots. The operations dep has a new younger ops manager that has generated a lot of work and brought up moral. Andrew Hardy has moved into a more senior role.
Hardy's employee a huge range of engineers, buy the best aircraft (im sure as pilots we have all seen the new flash 441's arriving) and most of the pilots they employee are highly experienced. They pick up the slack when all the other airlines in Darwin need a crosshire including the big operators like Airnorth. tell me how much would the NT Goverment be charged if hardyaviation got closed and the main competition in Darwin was Gone?
CASA's focus on them has put a downer on things, but given they are still flying non stop VFR shows there clients are not concerned. Sounds like a few people at CASA in Darwin have a bad taste in there mouth from previous experiences to me... Hope they get over it
Hardy's employee a huge range of engineers, buy the best aircraft (im sure as pilots we have all seen the new flash 441's arriving) and most of the pilots they employee are highly experienced. They pick up the slack when all the other airlines in Darwin need a crosshire including the big operators like Airnorth. tell me how much would the NT Goverment be charged if hardyaviation got closed and the main competition in Darwin was Gone?
CASA's focus on them has put a downer on things, but given they are still flying non stop VFR shows there clients are not concerned. Sounds like a few people at CASA in Darwin have a bad taste in there mouth from previous experiences to me... Hope they get over it
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Are you for real?!?!
If Hardys is such a hot topic of discussion, why not start your own thread?
Any update on what's happening with DirectAir?
If Hardys is such a hot topic of discussion, why not start your own thread?
Who gives a crap about Hardy's get back on topic.
Sounds to me like nothing is happening at Direct... which is why everyone is talking about Hardy's.
There is a certain old C441 in SW NSW that was the center of some controversy over a number of years. Is this related to DAS's demise?
There is a certain old C441 in SW NSW that was the center of some controversy over a number of years. Is this related to DAS's demise?
Are you for real?!?!
If Hardys is such a hot topic of discussion, why not start your own thread?
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Who gives a crap about Hardy's get back on topic.
Any update on what's happening with DirectAir?
If Hardys is such a hot topic of discussion, why not start your own thread?
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Who gives a crap about Hardy's get back on topic.
Any update on what's happening with DirectAir?
Some people need a kick in the head every now and then,
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If they were not paying staff superannuation they were probably trading insolvent. Set the dogs on the directors. GEERS won't recover your super, so you have to be quick and quite aggressive to have any hope of getting it - assuming that there is any money left, that is.
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T303 that is true once a company has gone into liquidation. But non-payment of staff super while still trading is a scam that can be controlled if a few take early preventative action.
For example. On a recent gig, the usual super payments were shown on every payslip. After the usual three month cycle I checked my super fund. Nada. The bloody accountant did not even know what my super fund was, even though I had supplied full details. He later admitted that he had scribbled it down on a post-it note then lost it. He was also quite candid about them not paying super because they had other more pressing matters! Like fuel and airport charges to keep flying. So..... I gave them two written email warnings and notice that on the third strike they would be out. When they still did not pay it, I got the ATO on to it and am now getting the super drip feed - as are the other staff I believe. This company has not yet folded, and some may claim that heavying them like that has only worsened their finances. While some do genuinely get into trouble through circumstances like terminated contracts etc, with some people not paying bills and entitlements is almost a religion. A certain person who is well enough known in these forums comes to mind. Even when he could afford to pay, he didn't. It was like he got out of bed each morning with a plan to screw someone - anyone. The ends that he would go to are almost legendary. Like sending false copies of bank transfers by fax, or transferring money to an account then somehow doing a reverse transfer a minute or two later.
If they are not paying your super, these bottom feeders are stealing YOUR money. It is up to employees to get heavy before it is too late, even if it is the final nail before the receiver comes in. Too bad, let them get out of aviation and run a trinket stall at the markets. Where they will learn basic economics, i.e. what you sell must bring in more than what you are obliged to pay out. If you think that your job could be on the line - if they are unable to pay your super, they are going broke so all your action will do is perhaps accelerate the process by a couple of months.
And yes, it is about time defaulting thieving directors lost their houses and did a year or so in the slammer. Make a few high profile examples and watch the rest of them take their responsibilities a bit more seriously. The compulsory super scheme is a farce and the pr!cks know it.
For example. On a recent gig, the usual super payments were shown on every payslip. After the usual three month cycle I checked my super fund. Nada. The bloody accountant did not even know what my super fund was, even though I had supplied full details. He later admitted that he had scribbled it down on a post-it note then lost it. He was also quite candid about them not paying super because they had other more pressing matters! Like fuel and airport charges to keep flying. So..... I gave them two written email warnings and notice that on the third strike they would be out. When they still did not pay it, I got the ATO on to it and am now getting the super drip feed - as are the other staff I believe. This company has not yet folded, and some may claim that heavying them like that has only worsened their finances. While some do genuinely get into trouble through circumstances like terminated contracts etc, with some people not paying bills and entitlements is almost a religion. A certain person who is well enough known in these forums comes to mind. Even when he could afford to pay, he didn't. It was like he got out of bed each morning with a plan to screw someone - anyone. The ends that he would go to are almost legendary. Like sending false copies of bank transfers by fax, or transferring money to an account then somehow doing a reverse transfer a minute or two later.
If they are not paying your super, these bottom feeders are stealing YOUR money. It is up to employees to get heavy before it is too late, even if it is the final nail before the receiver comes in. Too bad, let them get out of aviation and run a trinket stall at the markets. Where they will learn basic economics, i.e. what you sell must bring in more than what you are obliged to pay out. If you think that your job could be on the line - if they are unable to pay your super, they are going broke so all your action will do is perhaps accelerate the process by a couple of months.
And yes, it is about time defaulting thieving directors lost their houses and did a year or so in the slammer. Make a few high profile examples and watch the rest of them take their responsibilities a bit more seriously. The compulsory super scheme is a farce and the pr!cks know it.
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Given that the website is still up and running (but there is no reference to Darwin there) can someone clarify whether the company has either;
1 closed its doors (ceased trading voluntarily); or
2 gone bankrupt; or
3 closed its Darwin base.
For those casting aspersions on salary and superannuation payments I can only comment that when I worked for them from early 2004 to end 2007 they never failed to pay me on time either salary, expenses or superannuation.
1 closed its doors (ceased trading voluntarily); or
2 gone bankrupt; or
3 closed its Darwin base.
For those casting aspersions on salary and superannuation payments I can only comment that when I worked for them from early 2004 to end 2007 they never failed to pay me on time either salary, expenses or superannuation.
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California111, I wasn't totally convinced after your full page advertisement for Hardy's. Maybe another 9 paragraphs will convince us they're the Gods of NT aviation, and can do no wrong.
As for Direct... This is 3 degrees of separation away from the horse's mouth , but I got it on very good authority today that they're over. Nil money, no chance of recovery. Hopefully for the pilots and staff this will be proven wrong.
As for Direct... This is 3 degrees of separation away from the horse's mouth , but I got it on very good authority today that they're over. Nil money, no chance of recovery. Hopefully for the pilots and staff this will be proven wrong.
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For those casting aspersions on salary and superannuation payments I can only comment that when I worked for them from early 2004 to end 2007 they never failed to pay me on time either salary, expenses or superannuation.
Speak for yourself.
For those casting aspersions on salary and superannuation payments I can only comment that when I worked for them from early 2004 to end 2007 they never failed to pay me on time either salary, expenses or superannuation.
Speak for yourself.
So who are the administrators?
Mark & Mark?
Mark & Mark?
ASIC Website has no details of administration or anything else...
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So, take 7?
I was one of the '05 guys. They were good to work for, lots of fun, hours and a great springboard for the next gig, but like most GA outfits, the owners were sharks.
What's the qualifier this time? I seem to remember the rumours of Direct Air going bust were around the traps basically as soon as they started up in Darwin.
520.
What's the qualifier this time? I seem to remember the rumours of Direct Air going bust were around the traps basically as soon as they started up in Darwin.
520.
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Amazing that Direct go bust, Hardys get grounded and a certain other operator on the Northen GA side of the field just keeps on 'trucking' seemingly unaffected by it all.
The word ironic doesn't seem strong enough to describe the situation.
The word ironic doesn't seem strong enough to describe the situation.
