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Old 24th Nov 2012, 07:52
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Aviation Saftey Digest

I have this very day been throwing out paperwork from years of trying to learn stuff. One of the things I came across is my first Aviation Saftey digest, which is No 11 1957. Ridiculous really, but Hey, I just cant bring myself to throw them out. All manner of other stuff from previous training, mate I have it all, but Aviation Safety Digest, nup, cant do it.
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Old 24th Nov 2012, 08:17
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That's a vintage edition, Arnold! Amazing that you've kept it for so long. Out of interest, what were the issues being discussed 55 years ago?

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From the index,....Aviation news and views, Overseas accidents ( a C46 and a Bristol 170), Australian accidents, (DH 82's, DC 3 and a Cessna), Incident reports, and design notes, (elevator control cables), pretty much what you would see today.

For interest, it was September 1957.

The first one with a glossy picture on the cover was No 14, June 1958, the picture was black and white.

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I'll take them if you get to the point of throwing them out!
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Arnold, were there any forced landings in the accident reports?
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Arnold, were there any forced landings in the accident reports?
Yep, but no ballistic chutes.
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You've got the ones that were interesting. Do throw them out - I'll split them with roundsounds.
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Hi Arnold, just a suggestion.....

Is there a 'suitable' flight school or aviation museum to which you could donate them??

One that would keep them in good condition / assessible for all students and pilots to read.

They are far too valuable in the lessons they contain and the quality of the many reports - Thankyou Mr Job - to simply 'disappear'.....

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The collection that I have will not just disappear, as I indicated, I could not bring myself to throw them out, but on reflection, one of the local museums may well be a good place for them to reside. I will think about that one.
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Whip round.

How about everyone throws in a few bucks and get then scanned to disc or into an electronic format, then we can all use them. They leave the sad, award winning new version struggling in the dust and remain as valid now as the were in 1957; they kept at least generation of pilots out of trouble, talking and thinking. Invaluable. I'm in.

Don't think I've even opened the last lot of the new thing; I know I've happily, with malice and aforethought, binned them all without a shadow of regret.

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Whaddya rekon it wood cost Mr K..??

I'm 'open'......
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I'm happy to scan / PDF them if you don't have the technology.
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We have the Digests and a scanner at the Airways Museum, Essendon Airport, if anybody has the time to commit to scanning them. PM me.
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Is there a 'suitable' flight school or aviation museum to which you could donate them??

One that would keep them in good condition / assessible for all students and pilots to read.
Believe me - Don't waste your time. It is only us oldies that appreciate aand yearn for Mac Job's Aviation Safety Digests of yesteryear. I went to a lot of trouble many years ago at Essendon where in those days there were several flying schools. I had lots of flight safety magazines including the dozens of ASD's that I gave to a couple of flying schools wrongly presuming students would seize them and avidly read the good gen. After all, many of the accident reports applied to the aircraft they were currently training on.

Big mistake. A month or so later I dropped in and found the magazines tossed into a corner and gathering dust and obviously unread or discarded. To me those ASD's were priceless but obviously not to the then current generation of students. I gave it another month and went back. The mags were still untouched in the same corner of the briefing rooms.

I thought `Stuff 'em" and carefully gathered the mags together and took them back home where they are to this day. I still read them. I am quite convinced today's students are simply not interested in old flight safety pubs. Maybe the odd enthusiast here and there, but they are a rarity. And I might add, that includes today's generation of airline pilots. They prefer Facebook and other social media.

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That's depressing. Arnold's collection starts in the year I was born, and I didn't learn to fly til I was in my 30's, but I valued those magazines. I'd chip in to have them digitized for posterity. So much experience and wisdom - shouldn't be discarded.

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Digitizing them is an amazing idea, where do I send my cheque? Oops I mean transfer the money to?
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Count me in with the digitizing! How much?
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I have PM'd roundsounds so we'll just see what happens.
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In the early 90's the Engineering Library at Melbourne Uni had a whole stash of them. Read them avidly!

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Digitizing them is an amazing idea, where do I send my cheque? Oops I mean transfer the money to?
The subject of placing the whole ADS series on CD was discussed at length on Pprune a couple of years ago. While everyone thought what a wonderful idea, the project died a natural death when it was realised it was going to be a dedicated and big job to coordinate. In other words readers got a dose of realism. Of course the ideal people to do the job was CASA/ATSB since they were responsible for the original production of the magazine.

But it all costs money. While those of a certain vintage would have welcomed the opportunity of reading ASD's electronically, as Centaurus mentioned in an earlier post, few current student, PPL, CPL or ATPL licence holders would be interested. Pity of course but unfortunately they seem to be the facts.

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