Cirrus Crash near Dubbo
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You are funny Forkie.
Here is a well written article..... they let the pilots words get printed.
'PLANE' LUCKY: pilot and passenger walk away from crash | Daily Liberal
Seems he made a calculated decision, and stuck to his plan. Can't criticise that.
The decission to ride out a canopy descent into a flat field is interesting, they were looking for farm strips, but decided the chute was a better option. At least they flew it to an area where a chute deployment would be optimal
I would hope I thought that clearly too.
Here is a well written article..... they let the pilots words get printed.
'PLANE' LUCKY: pilot and passenger walk away from crash | Daily Liberal
Seems he made a calculated decision, and stuck to his plan. Can't criticise that.
The decission to ride out a canopy descent into a flat field is interesting, they were looking for farm strips, but decided the chute was a better option. At least they flew it to an area where a chute deployment would be optimal
I would hope I thought that clearly too.
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Thanks for reminding me Frank....
The water jump into Shoal Bay (Port Stephens...) from the Sh@thook. Another fun aircrew compulsory activity which preceeded the dreaded Comsurv (Combat Survival) course they used to run from YAMB... another great way to lose weight.....those were the days, no need to wait for Movember to grow a moustache back then.....
I'd forgotten all about that jump! Mine was in daylight (out of YWLM) and was static line after doing the tower run and spending the morning hanging about, shouting and getting shouted at back in the PTS hangar (when it used to be there..). I remember sitting in the back of the Chook and watching the PJI's clowning about on the ramp with one pretending to fall out the back and disappear whilst screaming while the other looked shocked! Great stuff, until it was your turn next after shuffling along hooked up....
Stiky
Afterthought....
One benefit I remember was if you wet your pants when you went off the ramp then no one would know because it was into water anyway.....
Hang on, if yours was at night were you jumping into Salt Ash and went a tad astray?
The water jump into Shoal Bay (Port Stephens...) from the Sh@thook. Another fun aircrew compulsory activity which preceeded the dreaded Comsurv (Combat Survival) course they used to run from YAMB... another great way to lose weight.....those were the days, no need to wait for Movember to grow a moustache back then.....
I'd forgotten all about that jump! Mine was in daylight (out of YWLM) and was static line after doing the tower run and spending the morning hanging about, shouting and getting shouted at back in the PTS hangar (when it used to be there..). I remember sitting in the back of the Chook and watching the PJI's clowning about on the ramp with one pretending to fall out the back and disappear whilst screaming while the other looked shocked! Great stuff, until it was your turn next after shuffling along hooked up....
Stiky
Afterthought....
One benefit I remember was if you wet your pants when you went off the ramp then no one would know because it was into water anyway.....
Hang on, if yours was at night were you jumping into Salt Ash and went a tad astray?
Good report Jaba.....
Anybody know if the fuselage is supposed to be 'repairable' after an event like this?
The deceleration of 1,600fpm must cause a few probs. at the point of contact...engine mounts, u/c attachment points, wings, etc..??
Just curious is all...can't afford one anyway....
Anybody know if the fuselage is supposed to be 'repairable' after an event like this?
The deceleration of 1,600fpm must cause a few probs. at the point of contact...engine mounts, u/c attachment points, wings, etc..??
Just curious is all...can't afford one anyway....
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The Cirrus Centre @ MB advised around $14k for the 10 year repack,
The rest of the spend would be the damage repairs and cosmetics.
From the photo it looks like all undercarriage, chute lines, some fuselage repairs and a bent prop.
Not to mention the cost of the original cause of the engine failure....
Yep, maybe all up close to $100k but as it's a later model, she may fly again rather than be written off.
The rest of the spend would be the damage repairs and cosmetics.
From the photo it looks like all undercarriage, chute lines, some fuselage repairs and a bent prop.
Not to mention the cost of the original cause of the engine failure....
Yep, maybe all up close to $100k but as it's a later model, she may fly again rather than be written off.
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$100K..... what for the fuselage repairs? Plus the rest.
Add to that the engine and propellor which for a TAT TNIO550 will run out at well over $100K including all the other bits, I can see $130K before we start.
This aircraft was for sale in the USA not long back at $349K.
Nice machine too.
$100K..... what for the fuselage repairs? Plus the rest.
Add to that the engine and propellor which for a TAT TNIO550 will run out at well over $100K including all the other bits, I can see $130K before we start.
This aircraft was for sale in the USA not long back at $349K.
Nice machine too.
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Jabba - Just speculation in this case from a single photo...maybe the engine is repairable.
I understand quite a few Cirrus have returned to service after a chute pull so my assumption was based on Insurance companies possibly repairing aircraft after a chute pull rather than writing it off.
On the other hand, maybe some Cirri have been bought as write-offs and returned to service by someone with deep-pockets, questionable sanity :-) and a lot of spare time on their hands.....
I understand quite a few Cirrus have returned to service after a chute pull so my assumption was based on Insurance companies possibly repairing aircraft after a chute pull rather than writing it off.
On the other hand, maybe some Cirri have been bought as write-offs and returned to service by someone with deep-pockets, questionable sanity :-) and a lot of spare time on their hands.....
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That SR looks suspiciously like one that has been parked at YSBK recently. Does anyonre know if it is the same one? Mind you, I am just comparing paint jobs![\quote]
No, the one at YSBK is still here, Identical paint job though, looks very nice
That SR looks suspiciously like one that has been parked at YSBK recently. Does anyonre know if it is the same one? Mind you, I am just comparing paint jobs![\quote]
No, the one at YSBK is still here, Identical paint job though, looks very nice
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OH MY GOD, luckily they pulled the chute over that terribly bad tiger country, someone could have been seriously hurt during their descent from 5,000 ft into dense tiger country!! 
'PLANE' LUCKY: pilot and passenger walk away from crash | Daily Liberal
'PLANE' LUCKY: pilot and passenger walk away from crash | Daily Liberal
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What will be more interesting is why the low oil pressure. Why did the ol 550 give up the ghost. We will have to wait and see for that.
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Didn't the former Cirrus agent have something similar happen (engine wise) in his G3 Turbo off Hamilton Island a couple of years back?
Both articles read like an advert for Cirrus aircraft except that in this one they didn't use the patented Cirrus safety hammer (tm) to smash their way out
Both articles read like an advert for Cirrus aircraft except that in this one they didn't use the patented Cirrus safety hammer (tm) to smash their way out
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Why wouldn't you use the chute? It's there for a reason, just like bang seats.
All the naysayers would be chest poking the pilot if he had rolled it up in the paddock attempting a dead-stick landing and killed someone. Then everyone would be asking why he didn't use the chute.
All the naysayers would be chest poking the pilot if he had rolled it up in the paddock attempting a dead-stick landing and killed someone. Then everyone would be asking why he didn't use the chute.
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hmm...
landed at airfields that look worse than that paddock.......
nuff said there.
Looking at the pic on this page, first thing i notice.......
Why are the flaps extended?
landed at airfields that look worse than that paddock.......
nuff said there.
Looking at the pic on this page, first thing i notice.......
Why are the flaps extended?
I'm with you, havick on this.
A) John Nixon had a passenger with him for whom he was entirely responsible.
B) He had attended a familiarisation on the SR22's parachute system about 18 months prior at Wagga. So he was confident on how to use it.
C) He was flying a fixed tricycle U/C aircraft that could have done a nose over if caught in a rut, etc.
D) He avoided the temptation to be a hairy chested hero as some of you guys seem to hold him in contempt.
E) The Cirrus was presumably insured, so it's now a problem for that insurance company. Who cares if WYH ever flies again? The crew are safe.
F) Aircraft can be replaced but lives cannot.
G) Prior to my first solo in 1983, I did the usual engine failure check. My instructor had previously briefed me that the aircraft should always be treated as expendable, if necessary.
H) Jas24zzk, But were your landings in similar airfields to that paddock with a failed engine? The flaps may be extended because something may have broken on contact with the ground?
I) Very good airmanship, John Nixon. Well done!
A) John Nixon had a passenger with him for whom he was entirely responsible.
B) He had attended a familiarisation on the SR22's parachute system about 18 months prior at Wagga. So he was confident on how to use it.
C) He was flying a fixed tricycle U/C aircraft that could have done a nose over if caught in a rut, etc.
D) He avoided the temptation to be a hairy chested hero as some of you guys seem to hold him in contempt.
E) The Cirrus was presumably insured, so it's now a problem for that insurance company. Who cares if WYH ever flies again? The crew are safe.
F) Aircraft can be replaced but lives cannot.
G) Prior to my first solo in 1983, I did the usual engine failure check. My instructor had previously briefed me that the aircraft should always be treated as expendable, if necessary.
H) Jas24zzk, But were your landings in similar airfields to that paddock with a failed engine? The flaps may be extended because something may have broken on contact with the ground?
I) Very good airmanship, John Nixon. Well done!
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jas24zzk:
I would suggest the flaps were out to slow the SR22 down as much as possible prior to deploying the chute.
Seems to me that the Pilot made a clear, rational choice which resulted in the occupants survival.
Who cares about the field, the aircraft, the cause....They are alive and will soon have a cheque to either fix their bruised SR22 or buy another.
I would suggest the flaps were out to slow the SR22 down as much as possible prior to deploying the chute.
Seems to me that the Pilot made a clear, rational choice which resulted in the occupants survival.
Who cares about the field, the aircraft, the cause....They are alive and will soon have a cheque to either fix their bruised SR22 or buy another.
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Looking at the pic on this page, first thing i notice.......
Why are the flaps extended?
Why are the flaps extended?
They are for takeoff.