NAIPS and NAIPS for Windows and AIS/MET Changes
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Yikes! Did they even test this?
When it's not saying "In progress..."
It's saying "NAIPS has an encountered an error, try logging out, restarting your browser, getting a coffee, come back and repeat the steps..." (only to get the same error)
When it's not saying "In progress..."
It's saying "NAIPS has an encountered an error, try logging out, restarting your browser, getting a coffee, come back and repeat the steps..." (only to get the same error)
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C6505/12 REVIEW C6504/12
ELECTRONIC BRIEFING AND SUBMISSION OF FLT NOTIFICATIONS VIA PHONE AND
FAX MAY EXPERIENCE DELAYS FOLLOWING THE NAIPS INTERNET SERVICE (NIS)
INSTALLATION AND COMMISSIONING
THE FLW FACILITIES ARE LIMITED:
-INTERNET BRIEFING
-FLT NOTIFICATION SUBMISSION VIA PHONE OR FAX
-AVFAX/METBRIEF
-STORED FLT FILES HELD IN NAIPS
THE FLW FACILITIES ARE AVBL:
-PHONEAWAY CARD PHONE AND FAX SUBMISSION OF FLT NOTIFICATIONS 1800
805 150
-BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY AVIATION WEATHER BRIEFING AT
WWW.BOM.GOV.AU/AVIATION
FROM 10 312048 TO 11 012030 EST
ELECTRONIC BRIEFING AND SUBMISSION OF FLT NOTIFICATIONS VIA PHONE AND
FAX MAY EXPERIENCE DELAYS FOLLOWING THE NAIPS INTERNET SERVICE (NIS)
INSTALLATION AND COMMISSIONING
THE FLW FACILITIES ARE LIMITED:
-INTERNET BRIEFING
-FLT NOTIFICATION SUBMISSION VIA PHONE OR FAX
-AVFAX/METBRIEF
-STORED FLT FILES HELD IN NAIPS
THE FLW FACILITIES ARE AVBL:
-PHONEAWAY CARD PHONE AND FAX SUBMISSION OF FLT NOTIFICATIONS 1800
805 150
-BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY AVIATION WEATHER BRIEFING AT
WWW.BOM.GOV.AU/AVIATION
FROM 10 312048 TO 11 012030 EST
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What a complete pile of dog****e this is. I used to have direct weather links for Syd, Mel etc on my bookmarks, and being a basic text format briefing it would appear very quickly -even with dodgy Internet connections...and there was no need to login.
Now...login, wait, wait wait, error MSG, wait wait wait....then hey presto, what took 1 sec under the old system, now takes 3 or 4 mins...just for a TTf and ATIS. What cra...p.
Now...login, wait, wait wait, error MSG, wait wait wait....then hey presto, what took 1 sec under the old system, now takes 3 or 4 mins...just for a TTf and ATIS. What cra...p.
Getting the same error. Interesting that the NOTAM directs you to the BOM site albeit a broken link. Hasn't there been several topics regarding the legalities of obtaining a briefing from BOM vs ASA?
Standard Government IT/software Project Risk Management Plan.
Risk: New system won’t work properly
Mitigation: Roll it out anyway and fix it ‘live’. We get paid the same despite the disruption and aggravation for users.
Risk: New system won’t be as useful as the previous system
Mitigation: Roll it out anyway. We get paid the same despite the reduction in utility.
Risk: New system won’t work properly
Mitigation: Roll it out anyway and fix it ‘live’. We get paid the same despite the disruption and aggravation for users.
Risk: New system won’t be as useful as the previous system
Mitigation: Roll it out anyway. We get paid the same despite the reduction in utility.
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fpvdude: During testing (when that was accessible) we found that it did not take much for a lodged plan to be shuttled off into a human-attention-required queue. The user was told the plan had been accepted but it would not show in their active plans list so could not accessed to amend or cancel. If the human attention requires using the new web interface...
The melting server at AsA has stopped my support phone from melting but the situation is "suboptimal".
David75: The only answer I got when I broached the topic was, "that's not possible."
The melting server at AsA has stopped my support phone from melting but the situation is "suboptimal".
David75: The only answer I got when I broached the topic was, "that's not possible."
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Melting server all right ...
I've been trying to add groups and users to our login this morning and I would suspect that is what the rest of Australia is also doing ...
Might have to wait a while and try at stupid o'clock when the server is not being hammered.
I've been trying to add groups and users to our login this morning and I would suspect that is what the rest of Australia is also doing ...
Might have to wait a while and try at stupid o'clock when the server is not being hammered.
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Thanks god I'm on RDO's! I logged on to have a look at the new wizz-bang system and was very disappointed to see how much, In Progress....... and NAPIS has sh!t itself messages there were.
Will ASA pull the same backflip and go back to NAIPS for Windows before days end?
Will ASA pull the same backflip and go back to NAIPS for Windows before days end?
I thought I would be smart and get my plan in under the old system yesterday for a flight this morning. Tower had no record of the plan but Censar did have a sartime.
I expected to be on the phone forever trying to cancel and submit sartimes this morning for the plan but to their credit, Flightwatch answered even quicker than the often do.
Let's let the dust settle and see what comes out at the end.
BAS - In theory will your old NAIPS APP still work when it's all sorted? Or will there be a new one?
I expected to be on the phone forever trying to cancel and submit sartimes this morning for the plan but to their credit, Flightwatch answered even quicker than the often do.
Let's let the dust settle and see what comes out at the end.
BAS - In theory will your old NAIPS APP still work when it's all sorted? Or will there be a new one?
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In theory will your old NAIPS APP still work when it's all sorted? Or will there be a new one?
A short time ago the interfaces used by Command Flight Planner, AvPlan, Oz Runways etc. started responding although they are suffering the same intermittent and slow performance as the AsA web site is.
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OzRunways and NAIPS for iOS require a new version. We just hit the release button on both of them and they are making their way to an App Store near you as we speak. May take a while to appear in your updates list.
No real reason given about the reason for being unable to run in parallel; other than that there are also updates to the NAIPS back-end being made.
Of course in IT nothing is impossible, but these systems are old and I am sure they did a cost/benefit/risk analysis of doing even more work to enable this and decided not to.
No real reason given about the reason for being unable to run in parallel; other than that there are also updates to the NAIPS back-end being made.
Of course in IT nothing is impossible, but these systems are old and I am sure they did a cost/benefit/risk analysis of doing even more work to enable this and decided not to.
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Command Flight Planner (v6.7) is up and running with the following caveat: it suffers the same slow response time and request timeout problems as you currently see through Airservices Australia's new web interface.
