How are JetGo going
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Hey mate. Thanks for the input.
Just to mention that no one said that 'HE' wasnt a good guy. I bet he is but when you have potential career opportunities knocking at your door and you turn them down due to a position that was offered to you, then I would probably want to know where I stand. If they dont want me anymore that is absolutely fine but please tell me so I can move on and further my career somewhere else.
I agree with Nulli.....it is professional and good communication is great relationship building with staff, potential staff and clients. At the end of the day at least you have some idea of whats going on.
I do believe that these guys will be currently very busy with the business as well as operational committments but will only take 30 seconds to reply to an email.
Thanks guys. Fly safe
Just to mention that no one said that 'HE' wasnt a good guy. I bet he is but when you have potential career opportunities knocking at your door and you turn them down due to a position that was offered to you, then I would probably want to know where I stand. If they dont want me anymore that is absolutely fine but please tell me so I can move on and further my career somewhere else.
I agree with Nulli.....it is professional and good communication is great relationship building with staff, potential staff and clients. At the end of the day at least you have some idea of whats going on.
I do believe that these guys will be currently very busy with the business as well as operational committments but will only take 30 seconds to reply to an email.
Thanks guys. Fly safe
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Here's hoping
I couldn't agree more. I do hope they prosper but they should also be keeping the communication lines open to their prospective employees. I made a point of replying to all the applicants that sent CVs to me. I got in the poo for "wasting" stamps but it sure came in handy when '89 hit and I lost most of my pilots to SkyWest then Ansett.
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I got in the poo for "wasting" stamps but it sure came in handy when '89 hit and I lost most of my pilots to SkyWest then Ansett.
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If I continued to display such poor fiscal management I probably would have ended up being CEO of an airline!
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Ah yes Gobbledock
Consultant, that is an interesting idea. Do you mean front up when ever you want to to charge an exorbitant fee for opinion that carries no liability or responsibility?
Nah, sounds too close CASA for my liking!
Nah, sounds too close CASA for my liking!
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Looks like the crew at Jetgo are doing it right.. Heard they took over the Osbourne Contract from the Saabs... Been flying everyday this week. Townsville, Osbourne and Brisbane, looking at flight aware, they are doing the flight inbound in well under two hours. Guess the big debate with the knockers here saying the little jungle jet wouldn't find a niche were a little off the mark.... Why would you want to sit in a turbo prop for 3.5 hours versus 1.45 average in the jet..
I am also told their second aircraft arrives soon, Well done i say, more SE based jet jobs!
I am also told their second aircraft arrives soon, Well done i say, more SE based jet jobs!
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Yeah so?
And Air Australia were flying to Phuket, Hawaii, Derby and all over the place until they couldn't pay the fuel bill at Phuket! Then it was all over.
For JetGo's sake I hope they are making a buck at it.
For JetGo's sake I hope they are making a buck at it.
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Hmm. I'd really like to see these guys go well. Bit of a concern though with Ivanhoe. Share price is terrible and a good source tells me they have little in the coffers. Don't let the client run arrears on the bills Go Jet. Hardest part of any new business is collecting monies owed. I pray the arrangment with Ivanhoe works out.
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And Air Australia were flying to Phuket, Hawaii, Derby and all over the place until they couldn't pay the fuel bill at Phuket! Then it was all over.
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And Air Australia were flying to Phuket, Hawaii, Derby and all over the place until they couldn't pay the fuel bill at Phuket! Then it was all over.
How bitter just are you guys, go back and check out your posts and come back to where they are today, flying 5 days a week for a ASX listed company and others. How much more do the poor buggers have to endure from the so called industry 'experts' on this forum before they are accepted! Seriously !
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You just don't get it.
For somebody who supposedly advises operators you are surprisingly slow to get the picture.
Nobody, especially I, want to see them fail. The discussion is not about that.
Your premise that because they are flying they are successful is flawed. I am merely making the point that, as in recent history with Air Australia, operators can be flat out flying from point A to point B but still be doing it at a loss until the funds dry up.
You seem to be dazzled and distracted by BARS accreditation, shiny new aircraft and ASX listings but have little understanding of basic principles of business and profitability.
I hope for their sake they are not reliant on you for your business acumen. If they are then they really are at risk
Nobody, especially I, want to see them fail. The discussion is not about that.
Your premise that because they are flying they are successful is flawed. I am merely making the point that, as in recent history with Air Australia, operators can be flat out flying from point A to point B but still be doing it at a loss until the funds dry up.
You seem to be dazzled and distracted by BARS accreditation, shiny new aircraft and ASX listings but have little understanding of basic principles of business and profitability.
I hope for their sake they are not reliant on you for your business acumen. If they are then they really are at risk
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It's not 5 days for a start; it's 3 and the said ASX company has just announced a major staff reduction and cost cutting process on 26 June. I wouldn't think they'd be paying Jetgo any more than the previous operator. The other days are for a charter broker who are good blokes and well established, but don't offer a lot of tenure.
I don't wish them any ill-well; I just think that less than 15-20 hours a week is pretty skinny utilization for an E Jet.
I don't wish them any ill-well; I just think that less than 15-20 hours a week is pretty skinny utilization for an E Jet.
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Some businesses/ industries allow a gradual ramp up for new starts. Aviation, particularly at the 'heavier' end - not really. It may be possible to be the ad-hoc guys for a short while with one or two airframes, but for mine, its not possible in the long term. That said, no one knows their balance sheet or P&L, marketing strategy, sales strategy or exit plan. This may very well be working to plan.
Regular, dependable cash flow from day one will be any business' saviour. Losses are of course normal at the beginning. With time a business will review its position and reconsider if the then losses were actually the investment needed for today's profitability or, the significant reason why the business failed & the liquidator/ administrator are now handling the collapse. The window of opportunity is usually very short & you do not waste a day making every post a winner.
Get those contracts signed, get the min crew, airframes & infrastructure in place asap.
I do think their prospects are good. They have a worthwhile point of differrence (Jet V Turbo prop), there appears to be some well established experience in the operator & there is a clearly identifiable need for their service.
Being under resourced however is probably the 'silliest' reason for good businesses & good people to fail!
Regular, dependable cash flow from day one will be any business' saviour. Losses are of course normal at the beginning. With time a business will review its position and reconsider if the then losses were actually the investment needed for today's profitability or, the significant reason why the business failed & the liquidator/ administrator are now handling the collapse. The window of opportunity is usually very short & you do not waste a day making every post a winner.
Get those contracts signed, get the min crew, airframes & infrastructure in place asap.
I do think their prospects are good. They have a worthwhile point of differrence (Jet V Turbo prop), there appears to be some well established experience in the operator & there is a clearly identifiable need for their service.
Being under resourced however is probably the 'silliest' reason for good businesses & good people to fail!
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How much more do the poor buggers have to endure from the so called industry 'experts' on this forum before they are accepted! Seriously !
I would suggest you harden up a little, you seem to expect every poster to submit some kind of glossy, feel good, semi erect positive message? It doesn't work that way, you earn respect and acolades over time.
Those 'old timers' in the indsutry have seen numerous start up's come and go, so if JetGo wish to obtain some kind of euphoric 'acceptance' they will have to ride the passage of time and prove themselves.
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I'll bite
Why is that interesting? Is the Wikipedia entry to be taken as some form of validation?
Not likely. Especially when you see the sources of the information. Care to expand on your observation?
Not likely. Especially when you see the sources of the information. Care to expand on your observation?
