What is the origin of the name Nadzab
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What is the origin of the name Nadzab
I've heard that it's an acronym for something like Northern Australian defense zone air base. I've also heard that it's a local place name. It doesn't sound much like other local place names, though. Haven't been able to google any info one way or another.
Anyone know?
Anyone know?
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Not "newish" - Nadzab airstrip was built in the early 1940s due to the need for greater strip length and improved weather conditions.
The name Nadzab pre-dates the airstrip and was the original name of a Lutheran Mission Station established in the Nadzab area in 1910.
There are a number of non local names in the valley which probably date back to the German era pre 1918 e.g. Markham Valley, Leron Plains etc.
The name Nadzab pre-dates the airstrip and was the original name of a Lutheran Mission Station established in the Nadzab area in 1910.
There are a number of non local names in the valley which probably date back to the German era pre 1918 e.g. Markham Valley, Leron Plains etc.
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Thanks Tailwheel. That was the sort of answer I was looking for.
Any idea if there was any air strip there before the US/Australian airborne landing? I've read accounts which suggest there was, and others that suggest there was nothing there before the initial landings.
Any idea if there was any air strip there before the US/Australian airborne landing? I've read accounts which suggest there was, and others that suggest there was nothing there before the initial landings.
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As a matter of interest I think there were at least three or four airstrips at Nadzab and many miles of taxi ways. I remember driving along miles and miles of overgrown taxiways around 1970 when the Nadzab strip was disused. It was not unusual to find piles of .5 cal amunitionand other scraps and relics of the war.
Tom Leahy, who lived in the upper Markham from 1949 to 1979 (at Maralumi about ten miles west of Nadzab) recons there were 3,000 aircraft at Nadzab when he arrived in 1949.
I don't know if there was a pre war strip at Nadzab but will ask a couple of lapuns who should know. I suspect there was a strip there for two reasons:
1. It was a Luthern Mission Station from 1910 and the Lutherans and Catholics both operated aircraft (Junkers W33 and F13???) in New Guinea from the 1920s. The German administration had outposts in the upper Markham below the Kassam, but no explorers entered the Highlands until Mick, Jim and Dan Leahy with Jim Taylor travelled into the Highlands in 1932.
2. I'm sure there would have been at least an emergency airstrip in the Nadzab region for between war aircraft serving the route between Lae and the gold mining areas at Edie Creek and Bulolo. Junkers G31, Ford Trimotor and early de Havilland aircraft including the Fox Moth regularly operated out of Lae.
Tom Leahy, who lived in the upper Markham from 1949 to 1979 (at Maralumi about ten miles west of Nadzab) recons there were 3,000 aircraft at Nadzab when he arrived in 1949.
I don't know if there was a pre war strip at Nadzab but will ask a couple of lapuns who should know. I suspect there was a strip there for two reasons:
1. It was a Luthern Mission Station from 1910 and the Lutherans and Catholics both operated aircraft (Junkers W33 and F13???) in New Guinea from the 1920s. The German administration had outposts in the upper Markham below the Kassam, but no explorers entered the Highlands until Mick, Jim and Dan Leahy with Jim Taylor travelled into the Highlands in 1932.
2. I'm sure there would have been at least an emergency airstrip in the Nadzab region for between war aircraft serving the route between Lae and the gold mining areas at Edie Creek and Bulolo. Junkers G31, Ford Trimotor and early de Havilland aircraft including the Fox Moth regularly operated out of Lae.
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Originally Posted by Tailwheel
As a matter of interest I think there were at least three or four airstrips at Nadzab and many miles of taxi ways.
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Nadzab - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
As it says there was a village called Nadzab in the Markam valley and the Lutherins built the first airstrip there in 1910, hence the name Nadzab.
Nadzab - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
As it says there was a village called Nadzab in the Markam valley and the Lutherins built the first airstrip there in 1910, hence the name Nadzab.
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You'll find Nadzab on this 1964 US Army Corps of Engineers 1:250,000 map of Markham, Trust Territory of New Guinea - Australia.
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/ams/n...76-sb55-10.jpg
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http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/ams/n...76-sb55-10.jpg
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When you say "disused" do you mean "not used very frequently" , or completely unused?
Rumour had it that the Australian Government wanted Nadzab as a forward defence airstrip and required the PNG Government to close Lae and use Nadzab for all commercial flights and move the PNG Defense Force Air Wing to Nadzab, to justify the expense.
Until the mid to late 1970s, all operators used Lae airport, including the DC6B and later Lockeed Electra (and possibly the B727 I don't remember) from Sydney and Brisbane landed at Port Moresby and Lae, before heading south again.
Nadzab was disused until Air Niugini was forced back there in the late 1970s. The regional air services and air charter survived at Lae a little longer but eventually all operators were forced to Nadzab and Lae airstrip closed.
Olderairhead may remember more details?
The Australian Government "reconstructed" Nadzab to take Mirages, including the taxiways. It indeed was there to provide a defense base if required.
Air Niugini was "forced" to use Nadzab as Tailwheel indicated. ATC moved out there in 1979 from memory and GA continued to use Lae until it's closure.
Made for some interesting departures and arrivals in Lae without the tower being there! Sometimes lighting - or the lack thereof made for some interesting darktime movements
Air Niugini was "forced" to use Nadzab as Tailwheel indicated. ATC moved out there in 1979 from memory and GA continued to use Lae until it's closure.
Made for some interesting departures and arrivals in Lae without the tower being there! Sometimes lighting - or the lack thereof made for some interesting darktime movements
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On a related note, did Nadzab ever have an ILS?
There's a structure there which looks suspiciously line a glidepath antenna on the south side of runway 09, just abeam the touchdown marker, right where a glidepath antenna would be located.
There's a structure there which looks suspiciously line a glidepath antenna on the south side of runway 09, just abeam the touchdown marker, right where a glidepath antenna would be located.
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Can't answer that.
The Defense Force hadn't been at Nadzab very long when they "planted" a very low time C47/DC3 west of Nadzab. Is the airframe still there?
There were a number of station strips in the Markham, including on Jephcott's property at Dumpu and at Leron Plains.
The Defense Force hadn't been at Nadzab very long when they "planted" a very low time C47/DC3 west of Nadzab. Is the airframe still there?
There were a number of station strips in the Markham, including on Jephcott's property at Dumpu and at Leron Plains.
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The Defense Force hadn't been at Nadzab very long when they "planted" a very low time C47/DC3 west of Nadzab. Is the airframe still there?
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I was on TT in PNG on the F-28 in 1978, used Nadzab, tower in Lae I seem to recall.
Early days of Jets in PNG, night over the mountains Madang to Moresby, loads of fun.
Early days of Jets in PNG, night over the mountains Madang to Moresby, loads of fun.
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I thought Nadzab would be an emergency strip for the flights into the gold fields.
Further reference to Bertie Heath here.
Notice Jim's error on that page: "Bertie Heath was at the controls with Heath in the co pilot seat." Should be Turner in the co pilot seat.
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No mention of the earlier pre War Mission strip, although I know it existed.
Thought it was earlier than 1987? The remains of the aircraft sat at Nadzab for some years.
Further reference to Bertie Heath here.
Notice Jim's error on that page: "Bertie Heath was at the controls with Heath in the co pilot seat." Should be Turner in the co pilot seat.
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Nadzab Airfield was built by the United States Army during World War II and was developed into a massive airbase complex. It was home to many United States Army Air Forces and Royal Australian Air Force units during the war when it was a forward base of operations against Japanese positions, and was vital afterwards as a staging area.
Two parallel runways were built, running roughly east to west. Number 1 Strip was located to the north. Parallel and to the south was Number 2 Strip, closest to the Markham River. Towards the end of the war, the 21st Air Depot Unit at Nadzab began to manage a storage and reclamation area for excess Allied aircraft and salvage area for repairs. The CRTC (Combat Replacement Training Center) flew out of the base into 1945 until it was turned over to the New Guinea government.
The airfield was underutilized after the war until the mid-to-late 1970s. Until that time, live ammunition could still be found at the airfield. Today, the former 'East Base' or No. 1 & No. 2 runways are still in use by Air Niugini and for civil aviation, mainly servicing Lae which is 45 km away. Nearly every road in the area was built by American forces, and one can still see World War II era taxiways in the overgrown areas outside the modern landing area.
Two parallel runways were built, running roughly east to west. Number 1 Strip was located to the north. Parallel and to the south was Number 2 Strip, closest to the Markham River. Towards the end of the war, the 21st Air Depot Unit at Nadzab began to manage a storage and reclamation area for excess Allied aircraft and salvage area for repairs. The CRTC (Combat Replacement Training Center) flew out of the base into 1945 until it was turned over to the New Guinea government.
The airfield was underutilized after the war until the mid-to-late 1970s. Until that time, live ammunition could still be found at the airfield. Today, the former 'East Base' or No. 1 & No. 2 runways are still in use by Air Niugini and for civil aviation, mainly servicing Lae which is 45 km away. Nearly every road in the area was built by American forces, and one can still see World War II era taxiways in the overgrown areas outside the modern landing area.
On 18 November 1987, Douglas C-47B Skytrain P2-006 of the Papua New Guinea Defence Force was damaged beyond repair in an emergency landing shortly after take-off. An engine had lost power and a wing was ripped of in the subsequent belly landing.