Where do these things come from?
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Where do these things come from?
Heard a couple of new ones on the airways today - from an IFR pilot!
Readback of transponder code: "Coming down to (insert transponder code)"
In response to a request from Centre to confirm altitude: "Coming through six thousand".
After that last one I thought, "Well stop playing with yourself and fly the frigging aeroplane"!
Dr
Readback of transponder code: "Coming down to (insert transponder code)"
In response to a request from Centre to confirm altitude: "Coming through six thousand".
After that last one I thought, "Well stop playing with yourself and fly the frigging aeroplane"!
Dr
Musta heard it on LiveATC.com while playing MS Flight Sim after work 
Sounds very American to me. Our friends over there love all that cool stuff.
ATC: "Report sighting a 757 in your 1 o'clock at six miles"
Capt Cool: "We got em on the fish finder". (TCAS)
ATC: "Squawk 5125".
Capt Cool: "Fifty one twenty five is comming down at yer".
The one that really made me smile. Fed-Ex out of Clark in the Philippines,
Capt Cool: "We've lost a stove and we wanna come on back down, right now". (he lost an engine).
Bet the bloke you heard yesterday had his base ball hat on back to front and the crutch of his pants down to his knees. You've just got to get with it old chap.
ATC: "Report sighting a 757 in your 1 o'clock at six miles"
Capt Cool: "We got em on the fish finder". (TCAS)
ATC: "Squawk 5125".
Capt Cool: "Fifty one twenty five is comming down at yer".
The one that really made me smile. Fed-Ex out of Clark in the Philippines,
Capt Cool: "We've lost a stove and we wanna come on back down, right now". (he lost an engine).
Bet the bloke you heard yesterday had his base ball hat on back to front and the crutch of his pants down to his knees. You've just got to get with it old chap.
Sounds very American to me. Our friends over there love all that cool stuff.
ATC: "Report sighting a 757 in your 1 o'clock at six miles"
Capt Cool: "We got em on the fish finder". (TCAS)
ATC: "Squawk 5125".
Capt Cool: "Fifty one twenty five is comming down at yer".
The one that really made me smile. Fed-Ex out of Clark in the Philippines,
Capt Cool: "We've lost a stove and we wanna come on back down, right now". (he lost an engine).
Bet the bloke you heard yesterday had his base ball hat on back to front and the crutch of his pants down to his knees. You've just got to get with it old chap.
ATC: "Report sighting a 757 in your 1 o'clock at six miles"
Capt Cool: "We got em on the fish finder". (TCAS)
ATC: "Squawk 5125".
Capt Cool: "Fifty one twenty five is comming down at yer".
The one that really made me smile. Fed-Ex out of Clark in the Philippines,
Capt Cool: "We've lost a stove and we wanna come on back down, right now". (he lost an engine).
Bet the bloke you heard yesterday had his base ball hat on back to front and the crutch of his pants down to his knees. You've just got to get with it old chap.
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They design most of the aircraft we fly,
have a reasonably decent ATC system
and fly in weather that would leave lil brown stains in most Aussie pilots underwear
but yet they have to be second rate because at times their r/t is simplistic and to the point.
I do not hate the Yanks, in fact I'd rather fly into JFK, ORD or LAX than SYD. They have a great 'can-do' attitude which is refeshing compared to this country. I do think they should be more standard in their RT for safety reasons. I remember one call in Asia that caused confusion, on being cleared to 4,000ft, Capt Cool said: "We're outa six for four". ATC: "Negative you are cleared to 4,000". (ATC took the read-back as 4,400ft). This is dangerous. Leave the coolness until you are on the ground.
Think I'll wear my sunnies backwards today.
Think I'll wear my sunnies backwards today.
Nunc est bibendum
I think I used the words 'coming down' when changing a squawk code to ATC in european airspace as a S/O years ago. Thankfully the bruises given to me by the F/O have all faded now! 
I've rarely seen standard phraseology cause confusion. I've often heard non standard phraseology cause significant issues.
I've rarely seen standard phraseology cause confusion. I've often heard non standard phraseology cause significant issues.
still single,
you forgot to add
"about three thousand pages of reg's less than us"
and
"A safety record much better than ours"
you forgot to add
"about three thousand pages of reg's less than us"
and
"A safety record much better than ours"
your argument is that because they are (supposedly) better at us in many ways, it is inconceivable that we could be better than them in any way?
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Without standard Phraseology half of the threads in D&G would be gone!
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Horatio,
You are right we are better than the U.S. at many things:
Our prosecution rate for pilots and small operators is way more numerous than the U.S.
Our safety measured as number of accidents /100,000 hours is way more than the U.S.
Our rate of change of prescriptive regulation outstrips the U.S. but our adoption of risk based regulation is snails pace compared to U.S.
Our restrictions on runway use at capital city airports is way more prescriptive than the U.S.
we are good at getting ourselves into a state of total disharmony with the regulator, whereas the U.S. experience is the opposite, Alaska is a really great example of co operative behaviour, what happens there would cause a flurry of prosecutions here.
Yes we are good at restricting ourselves.
You are right we are better than the U.S. at many things:
Our prosecution rate for pilots and small operators is way more numerous than the U.S.
Our safety measured as number of accidents /100,000 hours is way more than the U.S.
Our rate of change of prescriptive regulation outstrips the U.S. but our adoption of risk based regulation is snails pace compared to U.S.
Our restrictions on runway use at capital city airports is way more prescriptive than the U.S.
we are good at getting ourselves into a state of total disharmony with the regulator, whereas the U.S. experience is the opposite, Alaska is a really great example of co operative behaviour, what happens there would cause a flurry of prosecutions here.
Yes we are good at restricting ourselves.
Have to agree there 'T28' we are such a backward country when it comes to aviation. We are damned lucky that this place is virtually empty compared to the rest of the world.
In such a safety conscience industry as aviation it's amazing that we have such a divided wall up between the flying community & it's regulators.
It's also a shame that common sense isn't used much in flying when it comes to R/T procedures for Eg as we have to be spoon fed with regs that make us severely over regulated.
Wmk2
In such a safety conscience industry as aviation it's amazing that we have such a divided wall up between the flying community & it's regulators.
It's also a shame that common sense isn't used much in flying when it comes to R/T procedures for Eg as we have to be spoon fed with regs that make us severely over regulated.
Wmk2