Seniority - is it time to get rid of it?
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...Seniority allowed you to know where you stood in terms of
last on first off, route bidding, equipment and promotion. It
eliminated any brown-nosing of the higher ups - you got the
chance of promotion or equipment upgrade when it was your
turn. Screw it up and you went back to where you were last at.
Leave and a few other items were also dependent on this
system to keep the peace and brown-nosers out of the works.
Same worked after promotion - a senior FO went from being
king of the ****s to **** of the kings with Reserve blocks etc.
But it all worked and we all got on well. The ruination of this
system, as well as the global airline industry in general began
in 1985 in the US. Look it up.
last on first off, route bidding, equipment and promotion. It
eliminated any brown-nosing of the higher ups - you got the
chance of promotion or equipment upgrade when it was your
turn. Screw it up and you went back to where you were last at.
Leave and a few other items were also dependent on this
system to keep the peace and brown-nosers out of the works.
Same worked after promotion - a senior FO went from being
king of the ****s to **** of the kings with Reserve blocks etc.
But it all worked and we all got on well. The ruination of this
system, as well as the global airline industry in general began
in 1985 in the US. Look it up.
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As a lot of you can imagine I was pretty nervous to ever post on here. A female flight attendant venturing into a male dominated tech crew forum, questioning the foundations on which most tech crew members careers have been built! I really must drink too much red wine!
Anyway almost all of you have been really nice about it, and I should have realised you would be as working with you I know most of you are great people who are open minded. I have certainly learnt a lot more than I expected to on a wide range of topics reading multiple threads on this forum.
Anyway almost all of you have been really nice about it, and I should have realised you would be as working with you I know most of you are great people who are open minded. I have certainly learnt a lot more than I expected to on a wide range of topics reading multiple threads on this forum.
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Tech crew are highly skilled after years of ongoing training. Life long learning and dedication to the profession to stay on top of the game.
Cabin crew are low skilled workers after 6 weeks training, pass eps twice a year. End of story.
Seniority in some form makes some sense for tech crew. 737 system is obviously fairer. Seniority for cc is a crock. Rewarding c c who have done the same limited skill base job for 20 years, encouraging them to hang around for another 10. WTF? I think a lot of tech crew are not thrilled by the idea of younger junior cabin crew being bullied on board by old angry seniors. Bad for safety .
Cabin crew are low skilled workers after 6 weeks training, pass eps twice a year. End of story.
Seniority in some form makes some sense for tech crew. 737 system is obviously fairer. Seniority for cc is a crock. Rewarding c c who have done the same limited skill base job for 20 years, encouraging them to hang around for another 10. WTF? I think a lot of tech crew are not thrilled by the idea of younger junior cabin crew being bullied on board by old angry seniors. Bad for safety .
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Blood Diamond
One of my favourite movies is "Blood Diamond". In one scene Leonardo Dicaprio says "I like to be kissed before I get fu&@ed".
And that sums up quite nicely how junior crew often feel about seniority.
I am still banned by the cabin crew mods from posting on the thread I started there about seniority. Great to see freedom of expression being encouraged by progressive intelligent people.
And that sums up quite nicely how junior crew often feel about seniority.
I am still banned by the cabin crew mods from posting on the thread I started there about seniority. Great to see freedom of expression being encouraged by progressive intelligent people.
