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Old 17th Jan 2012, 12:47
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Assuming the guy has a sling load endorsement - do the regs actually forbid waterskiing?

Troy Dan did it in 2007:

... and there are plenty of other You-tube vids on it:

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Old 17th Jan 2012, 13:26
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Ha Ha Ha [email protected] say, $100 per 5 minutes, AND + the video....a man could make a fortune....
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Old 17th Jan 2012, 19:21
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I was mulling over the same question.
Is water skiing behind a chopper any more dangerous than behind a boat?
Is towing a water skier more dangerous than slinging a load? or winching a paramedic down among the trees?
Bloody expensive way to ski, but any more dangerous than a conventional tow?
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Old 17th Jan 2012, 20:11
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Towing skiers is possibly not where it is at, leaving kids in a running helo might be.

I also do not see any issue about croc or egg collecting either, there is no safety issues there. But it seems they are throwing buckets of poo in the hope they get some to stick. Sound familiar?
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Old 17th Jan 2012, 20:55
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There is nothing safe about towing a water skier with a helicopter just as there is nothing safe about towing a boat with a helicopter. Iím sure that a charge of reckless flying could easily be upheld in a court.

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Old 17th Jan 2012, 21:32
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That chopper crashed because there was
  1. no release mechanism
  2. no plan
  3. the boat was MUCH heavier than a skier.

You can't say with certainty anything about a single skier with a hand-held tow rope.
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Old 17th Jan 2012, 22:00
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I can say with certainty that it is a clear case of reckless at best and endangering life at worst. As far as Iím concerned a chopper as light as an R22 towing a water skier is just as dangerous as a B206 towing a small boat. There is absolutely no room for error if something goes wrong. It demonstrates a clear case of reckless flying which is legislated for in the CARís.
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Old 17th Jan 2012, 22:16
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There is absolutely no room for error if something goes wrong
Really? NO room at all, eh? Sling load NEVER happens under an R22?


Those guys training wouldn't have a cable release system?

A skier has NO hope of letting go of a tow cable?
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Old 17th Jan 2012, 22:41
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You and I know that the load on a sling load is roughly constant where the load on the cable from a water skier is variable at best just as it is behind a boat. This alone would make the control of the chopper variable. I also donít see a water skier under a sling load 100% of the time. Also last time I looked a sling endorsement doesnít authorise a pilot to tow a water skier. There is a reason for this. Because itís reckless.
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Old 18th Jan 2012, 00:08
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For dat one,......only $20 for the 5 minutes....AND + the video!

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Old 18th Jan 2012, 01:08
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But it is still a boat!

That could just as easy be 185skywagon and Beachking on the Warrego
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Old 18th Jan 2012, 02:35
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Would be great if the Warrego looked that good.
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Old 18th Jan 2012, 04:58
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there is nothing safe about towing a boat with a helicopter
Fully understand the message you are trying to give, but it can be done if you go about it in the correct manner, and willing to accept the attendant risks, if any.

A Columbia 107 towed a hover barge over 50 miles of broken ice to an offshore drilling island. The barge was then loaded with equipment bringing its total weight to 220 tons, and towed back to shore. The 107 was able to tow the hover barge with a 600-foot longline with speeds up to 10 knots proving a new method of equipment transport.

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Brian Abraham top phot that!!
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Pretty sure that's Lake Neverfill at Roma

That could just as easy be 185skywagon and Beachking on the Warrego
I wouldn't think so. C185's don't go fast enough to barefoot behind.
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Old 18th Jan 2012, 06:16
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Wow

In all but one (whoops), you have to admire, even be a bit in awe of the skills some of these guys have.

It may (or may not) be "technically" legal, but wow anyway.
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Old 18th Jan 2012, 06:29
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Troy Dan did it in 2007:
Yep - he was another clown. Don't know what it is about some of these outback station owners.

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Old 18th Jan 2012, 08:22
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...It is either CASA's, ASA's or QANTAS' fault...
Dont ferget RA-Aus. Them lot get blammed fer everything..



Poor ol Milton, perhaps he shoulda joined them Sea Shepherd lot who drag cables under sea going ships and shine [email protected] at ships captains. Milton woulda had that dipwit Bob Brown giving him Oz military support if he were flying a black heli with a pirate insigna..






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Old 18th Jan 2012, 10:10
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I also donít see a water skier under a sling load 100% of the time. Also last time I looked a sling endorsement doesnít authorise a pilot to tow a water skier. There is a reason for this. Because itís reckless.
Obviously it's not seen 100% of the time. It does seem to have crossed the mind (and video cameras) of those with both water skiing and helicopter experience, though. The sling endorsement doesn't authorise a pilot to tow a skier - but the point is: is there any legislation forbidding it?.

After all, live loads on slings are not forbidden (otherwise helicopter rescue wouldn't be possible). Dragging things is not forbidden... Is it "reckless"? - I am not aware of any heli-water skiing injuries, so it can't be that much of a problem.

I think that it is one of those things which LOOK "exciting", but are pretty mundane when performed by knowledgeable people.

Now having said that, it doesn't exclude the allegations of leaving a helicopter running with passengers on board but no pilot etc etc.
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