CT4-B Aircraft / Flight Screening
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Hi All,
I am going on RAAF Flight screening in a few weeks, and will be on the Advanced Course as I have my PPL. Knowing that the advanced is going to be more challenging, I thought it might be a good thing to get into a CT4-B before hand and get familiar with the layout etc, just to take 1 of the challenges out of the equation. I live on the Sunshine Coast in QLD (1 hr north of Brisbane), so i was wondering if there was one anywhere in SE QLD? I don't know of one on the coast, but maybe in Brisbane, Toowoomba, or out west somewhere a bit?
Also please make any comments on flight screening that might help me get through it, as I am proud to have gotten this far but nervous as it is the make or break for my entry in the RAAF next year.
Cheers guys,
Jake
I am going on RAAF Flight screening in a few weeks, and will be on the Advanced Course as I have my PPL. Knowing that the advanced is going to be more challenging, I thought it might be a good thing to get into a CT4-B before hand and get familiar with the layout etc, just to take 1 of the challenges out of the equation. I live on the Sunshine Coast in QLD (1 hr north of Brisbane), so i was wondering if there was one anywhere in SE QLD? I don't know of one on the coast, but maybe in Brisbane, Toowoomba, or out west somewhere a bit?
Also please make any comments on flight screening that might help me get through it, as I am proud to have gotten this far but nervous as it is the make or break for my entry in the RAAF next year.
Cheers guys,
Jake
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G'day Mate, There was one at the Sunshine Coast a few years ago. Maybe check at the Aero Club. Also there is one in Mackay which I seen getting around a few months ago. If you call Air Pioneer up there on 4957661 and they should be able to point you in the right direction.
Good Luck.
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Thanks I will give Mackay and Toowoomba a call. There used to be one at Fogarty's Aviation when I was there many years ago, haven't seen it in ages though.
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Hi - You might find someone with a Victa/AESL Airtourer. Will handle similarly as they're both derived from the original Airtourer.
Or you could try an Alpha - a similar low wing, tricycle, bubble-canopy aerobatic aircraft.
I wouldn't be too fussed about the specific aircraft - they're not going to expect you to be familiar with the layout. Would be more useful to be reasonably current - just go flying. Also perhaps get familiar with some unusual attitudes - go flying with aerobatics instructor, perhaps get a spin endorsement (hour or two of good fun
Good luck.
Or you could try an Alpha - a similar low wing, tricycle, bubble-canopy aerobatic aircraft.
I wouldn't be too fussed about the specific aircraft - they're not going to expect you to be familiar with the layout. Would be more useful to be reasonably current - just go flying. Also perhaps get familiar with some unusual attitudes - go flying with aerobatics instructor, perhaps get a spin endorsement (hour or two of good fun
Good luck.
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Jake,
DrPixie's comments re familiarity are correct. As far as I recall, the Flight Screening Program (FSP) is deliberately designed to avoid the candidate needing to know the detailed cockpit layout and checklists. Generally speaking (at least for the basic FSP), the instructor will complete all checks and radio procedures.
You will be briefed extensively at FSP on the required workcycles, procedures, techniques and airmanship points. In a reasonably short program, these are more highly valued by the ADF than the candidates' ability to know the checklists and switchology.
I also agree that some recent flying might help, but beware FSP will be demanding on very disciplined attitude setting, trimming and workcycles, so don't go out and just enjoy the view if you decide to get flying before you go.
Hope this helps.
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DrPixie's comments re familiarity are correct. As far as I recall, the Flight Screening Program (FSP) is deliberately designed to avoid the candidate needing to know the detailed cockpit layout and checklists. Generally speaking (at least for the basic FSP), the instructor will complete all checks and radio procedures.
You will be briefed extensively at FSP on the required workcycles, procedures, techniques and airmanship points. In a reasonably short program, these are more highly valued by the ADF than the candidates' ability to know the checklists and switchology.
I also agree that some recent flying might help, but beware FSP will be demanding on very disciplined attitude setting, trimming and workcycles, so don't go out and just enjoy the view if you decide to get flying before you go.
Hope this helps.
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VI and DrPixie are on the money.
IMHO, they will want to see how you perform flying their workcycles, procedures, etc.
The way that they fly the aircraft may well be very different to how you fly. They know this, and will be interested in how you adjust to their way of flying.
In any case, the advanced course you'll do around half your flights in a CAP10(tailwheel a/c). If you want to prepare, perhaps get some t/w time.
Suggest you also do some IF time in a flight school SIM.
Having said all that, your raw flying ability isn't the full determinant on how you go. Your attitude over the two weeks will be assessed, as well as how you go during the team exercises and the interviews. Plenty of people who fly really well get scrubbed during the latter part of the assessments.
There are a few threads on this in D&G. Suggest you do a search for more pointers.
DIVOSH!
(Disclaimer: I did my assessment in 2004 so some parts may have changed)
IMHO, they will want to see how you perform flying their workcycles, procedures, etc.
The way that they fly the aircraft may well be very different to how you fly. They know this, and will be interested in how you adjust to their way of flying.
In any case, the advanced course you'll do around half your flights in a CAP10(tailwheel a/c). If you want to prepare, perhaps get some t/w time.
Suggest you also do some IF time in a flight school SIM.
Having said all that, your raw flying ability isn't the full determinant on how you go. Your attitude over the two weeks will be assessed, as well as how you go during the team exercises and the interviews. Plenty of people who fly really well get scrubbed during the latter part of the assessments.
There are a few threads on this in D&G. Suggest you do a search for more pointers.
DIVOSH!
(Disclaimer: I did my assessment in 2004 so some parts may have changed)
It's so obvious: Matt Handley at Toowoomba!
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There is a specific flight screening thread...all your questions will be answered there.
http://www.pprune.org/military-aircr...am-merged.html
About formation in flight screening...there is none. That comes at Pearce for the RAAF/RAN and much later in BFTS for the Army.
In my view, there is no need or benefit in flying the CT4B before screening. Your knowledge will be assumed to be zero and you will be taught what you need to know when you need to know it. The cost of my advice is the same as the cost to you for the flight screening itself...nothing. People who advise otherwise are probably wanting you to give them money. Tread warily.
http://www.pprune.org/military-aircr...am-merged.html
About formation in flight screening...there is none. That comes at Pearce for the RAAF/RAN and much later in BFTS for the Army.
In my view, there is no need or benefit in flying the CT4B before screening. Your knowledge will be assumed to be zero and you will be taught what you need to know when you need to know it. The cost of my advice is the same as the cost to you for the flight screening itself...nothing. People who advise otherwise are probably wanting you to give them money. Tread warily.
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Matt Handley used to (maybe still does) flight screening for the RAAF
ADF
There is a mis-conception that experience on a CT4-E will give one the edge at the FSP. If FSP candidates want to spend money flying Matt's CT-4, well good for them. I'm sure Matt is a fine instructor, but the fact is he has no experience in the role.
If its flight screening your trying to get through ,formation flying is a must and you need more than 1 CT4 ,it's obvious
Formation flying is not done done on the FSP.
Finally, what DBTW said - look at the comprehensive thread that already exists.
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Having learnt to fly in Toowoomba with Matt, I feel qualified to answer this question. Without doubt he is your go to man. His machine, (VH-CTZ) is an immaculate CT-4E with the full 300hp AEIO-540. Whilst it isn't the 'B' model that the RAAF use, it will certainly give you an edge on anyone without any CT-4 time. He has shown many now RAAF pilots how to handle the CT-4 and you won't find a more professional operator IMO
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let me tell you when the air force has an intake of students and the end result is an arm wrestle due to not having the funds to train them all as there are plenty of pilot standing around as we speak ,, it comes down to a lot of issues but what I can tell you if you have the same aptitude and skills base as the guy standing next to you , but you have a little more knowledge and experience than the next guy ,,,,well that's how it works old Sand dune..
let me tell you when the air force has an intake of students and the end result is an arm wrestle due to not having the funds to train them all as there are plenty of pilot standing around as we speak ,, it comes down to a lot of issues but what I can tell you if you have the same aptitude and skills base as the guy standing next to you , but you have a little more knowledge and experience than the next guy ,,,,well that's how it works old Sand dune..
