MERGED: Alligator Airways Grounded
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It's a lonely walk up them tracks. I prefer to be on the train.
Pineapples, watermelons or grapefruit, it all bloody hurts!
The boys are in safe hands, not the girls though
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YPJT. Clearly you have never worked under RK at Gator. There has been nothing posted on this thread that is incorrect or misleading about the attitude of the owner. Even after the new CP posted the following comments
you seem to think RK is one of the good guys. There is definitely a bully culture at gator and at a conservative guess at least 90% of it comes from the top. If you want specific examples feel free to PM me as I do have a limit to what I will post on a public forum.
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That just proves how stupid and naive he is then. Lying to your CP and going behind his back to replace him and then still expecting to be mates. HAHA
he was still quite happy to take the pay cheque for 12 months before coming to that conclusion. It was quite apparent to all under him that he was not the right man for the job from the start.
Good luck to you Ged, I sincerely wish you luck with it all. Gator has been in want of a strong willed, experienced CP for the last 2 years. Someone who is capable of standing up for what is right and having the necessary knowledge and skills to pass on to the newbies. 787 said it best
I do suggest that you watch your back though.
My goodness, what kind of systemic brow beating did these young bucks go through before?
787
He regrets the way he was placed as CP at gator and never wanted to burn any bridges with NO as that was not his intention
I know MB and he has admitted that he wasn't the right person for the job
Good luck to you Ged, I sincerely wish you luck with it all. Gator has been in want of a strong willed, experienced CP for the last 2 years. Someone who is capable of standing up for what is right and having the necessary knowledge and skills to pass on to the newbies. 787 said it best
Ged you have a huge task ahead of you and I hope you can get the company back on track and keep Mr CASA away...
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That just proves how stupid and naive he is then
There is definitely a bully culture at gator
It was quite apparent to all under him that he was not the right man for the job from the start.
As I said before Ged has a huge task ahead of him and I hope he can stay there long enough to get the company on track and an enjoyable place to work again, however it will take quite some time.
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Yes, changing a culture does take time. Rectifying systemic neglect takes time too. Re-qualifying every crew member, twice - lots of time. Good job I'm an instructor, poor old MB would have not been qualified to do what CASA have made me do.
Close circuits and glide approaches over an aircraft that didn't quite make it, is a bit of salt to wounds I didn't want to have to apply but CASA made me do it. Developing a good working relationship with our competitors, that takes time and trust too.
Dipping the poor buggers in the pool (and trying to make it informative for them. At least we got to shoot a few cane toads with an expired extinguisher) that's more time. CASA coming back half way through... Sorry, no it's not finished yet. You are flippin lucky I've had just enough time to fly with everyone. DFT8 takes 3 weeks to get here. Yes this is Kununurra not a capital city. Everything takes time at this corner of the globe. But that's apparently not part of CASA's pre-ordained agenda. Anyone got a job? 8.5K hours 1000 jet. Who knows? About 16 CIR renewals... G1 multi. maybe MB was right.
Close circuits and glide approaches over an aircraft that didn't quite make it, is a bit of salt to wounds I didn't want to have to apply but CASA made me do it. Developing a good working relationship with our competitors, that takes time and trust too.
Dipping the poor buggers in the pool (and trying to make it informative for them. At least we got to shoot a few cane toads with an expired extinguisher) that's more time. CASA coming back half way through... Sorry, no it's not finished yet. You are flippin lucky I've had just enough time to fly with everyone. DFT8 takes 3 weeks to get here. Yes this is Kununurra not a capital city. Everything takes time at this corner of the globe. But that's apparently not part of CASA's pre-ordained agenda. Anyone got a job? 8.5K hours 1000 jet. Who knows? About 16 CIR renewals... G1 multi. maybe MB was right.
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Yes, changing a culture does take time. Rectifying systemic neglect takes time too. Re-qualifying every crew member, twice - lots of time. Good job I'm an instructor, poor old MB would have not been qualified to do what CASA have made me do.
Close circuits and glide approaches over an aircraft that didn't quite make it, is a bit of salt to wounds I didn't want to have to apply but CASA made me do it. Developing a good working relationship with our competitors, that takes time and trust too.
Dipping the poor buggers in the pool (and trying to make it informative for them. At least we got to shoot a few cane toads with an expired extinguisher) that's more time. CASA coming back half way through... Sorry, no it's not finished yet. You are flippin lucky I've had just enough time to fly with everyone. DFT8 takes 3 weeks to get here. Yes this is Kununurra not a capital city. Everything takes time at this corner of the globe. But that's apparently not part of CASA's pre-ordained agenda. Anyone got a job? 8.5K hours 1000 jet. Who knows? About 16 CIR renewals... G1 multi. maybe MB was right.
Close circuits and glide approaches over an aircraft that didn't quite make it, is a bit of salt to wounds I didn't want to have to apply but CASA made me do it. Developing a good working relationship with our competitors, that takes time and trust too.
Dipping the poor buggers in the pool (and trying to make it informative for them. At least we got to shoot a few cane toads with an expired extinguisher) that's more time. CASA coming back half way through... Sorry, no it's not finished yet. You are flippin lucky I've had just enough time to fly with everyone. DFT8 takes 3 weeks to get here. Yes this is Kununurra not a capital city. Everything takes time at this corner of the globe. But that's apparently not part of CASA's pre-ordained agenda. Anyone got a job? 8.5K hours 1000 jet. Who knows? About 16 CIR renewals... G1 multi. maybe MB was right.
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Does that Jet happen to be of russian origin
A little bit of urine came out of me once I heard the news
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Cleared by CASA.
If anyone is still interested, I am pleased to announce that CASA have re-issued my Chief Pilot approval and have deleted further expiry restrictions. A few conditions were appended which we are already compliant with and I can certify to them. Now it is back to business as usual - but improved and MY way!
MB sincerely wished me luck with CASA. MB, sincerely - thank You!
MB sincerely wished me luck with CASA. MB, sincerely - thank You!
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After seeing how gator pilots and RK have recently been conducting theirselves, you're right Ged; it is back to business as usual....like nothing's changed....
At least you're trying.
At least you're trying.
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Well this did pop up on AFAP yesterday, and now today they are grounded
3 May 2012
Chief Pilot
Applications are sought for the position of Chief Pilot of Alligator Airways.
Alligator Operates a fleet of 5 multi-engine piston aircraft and supporting single engine aircraft with seasonal crew compliment reaching approximately 20 pilots. An Instructional background may also be advantageous in the future.
Appropriately qualified applicants should send a letter and CV to; [email protected]
3 May 2012
Chief Pilot
Applications are sought for the position of Chief Pilot of Alligator Airways.
Alligator Operates a fleet of 5 multi-engine piston aircraft and supporting single engine aircraft with seasonal crew compliment reaching approximately 20 pilots. An Instructional background may also be advantageous in the future.
Appropriately qualified applicants should send a letter and CV to; [email protected]
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GT is slightly off the mark when he says they operate float planes..... they haven't operated them for around 3 years. I hear someone with access to a float plane was trying to twist RK's arm into restarting the float operation..... Good luck with that!
3 engine failures in as many weeks (so im reliably told) clearly points to maintenance issues. To deny that is simply burying your head in the sand.
I'm sorry for the guys and girls who will be out of work if this one sticks but I have to say, the Kimberley skies will be safer without RK's aeroplanes.
3 engine failures in as many weeks (so im reliably told) clearly points to maintenance issues. To deny that is simply burying your head in the sand.
I'm sorry for the guys and girls who will be out of work if this one sticks but I have to say, the Kimberley skies will be safer without RK's aeroplanes.