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Old 8th Jul 2011, 06:08
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Wrightsair - William Creek.

I saw several Wrightsair aircraft at Marree this week. I think most of them were running Lake Eyre tours and suchlike.

I would like to put on record my admiration for the Wrightsair pilot Guys and Gals. I have never seen more professional behaviour, starting with voice procedure, manners and professionalism right down to the evening cleaning of the aircraft.

Why a Qantas or a Jetstar or a Virgin would not want to snap up young pilots with this type of background is simply beyond me.

P.S. I hope CASA gave you and all your operations a clean bill of health at William Creek.
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Old 8th Jul 2011, 08:43
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Sunny, do any of them say 'request traffic and code' (even some of the RAAF pilots are asking for 'traffic and code')
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Old 8th Jul 2011, 09:27
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Sunny are you looking for a job with Big Trev are you?

He runs a good ship and in fact one of my friends just started with them. Trevor provides an excellent start to the profession of flying for many young men and women. He doesn't take shyte though so you best know how to fly properly before getting there.

I have known Trevor for years so I am a bit biased. I have never worked for him though.

Glad to see some organisations are turning out good pilot's though Sunny.

Cheers

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Old 8th Jul 2011, 11:44
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Please explain what 'traffic and code' means and how would one respond to that? I'm more interested in the code part.

Here we go...
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Old 8th Jul 2011, 12:25
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'request traffic and code'
The RFDS are doing now - so it must be right!

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Old 8th Jul 2011, 12:34
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But what does it mean??
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Old 8th Jul 2011, 12:48
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But what does it mean??
You're not supposed to know what it means - that's why they call it "code" !

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Old 8th Jul 2011, 13:04
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It's just like ...climbing FLXXX pending clearance

I think what the Ranga wants is a correct TAXI call or IFR departure report, and THEN you will be given all the stuff you need, including the traffic and a code. But what would I know..... just a lowly bugsmasher...
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Old 8th Jul 2011, 13:12
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Thanks Dr!

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Old 8th Jul 2011, 13:14
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I always request my "airways when available", I don't want the controllers giving me something that's impossible now
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Old 8th Jul 2011, 15:03
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The RFDS are doing now - so it must be right
I'm sure if our Flight Standards department got hold of that Forky, the offending person would be made to write out the correct call 100 times!

I can't stand sloppy radio phraseology. If you can't be bothered to make the call correctly, what else can't you be bothered to do.....

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Old 8th Jul 2011, 21:58
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The RFDS are doing now - so it must be right!
Not in this part of the World they're not! Great idea about the lines mourno...

I always request my "airways when available",
How long before this becomes the standard, non standard phraseology?
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Old 8th Jul 2011, 23:11
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This reminds me of the old Army signals joke: "22 this is 23, have you received fresh radio batteries yet?"
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Old 9th Jul 2011, 02:25
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How long before this becomes the standard, non standard phraseology?
You should have said "How long before this becomes the standard, non standard phraseology this time?"
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Old 9th Jul 2011, 08:21
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I always request my "airways when available",
I wonder how many clearances have been given when "not available" ?

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Old 10th Jul 2011, 05:25
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It wasn't the intent, but somehow this has morphed into another R/T phraseology thread. So while we're at it, seems to be the trend lately:
"Centre, XYZ IFR Taxi"

Did I miss something new in the Jepps? I just launch straight in and give a taxi call...
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Old 10th Jul 2011, 05:35
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@maverick22 - I think it's just a bit of courtesy to let the controller finish whatever it is they are currently doing and pay attention to you, before you fire away with all of your details, only to be told to standby after blocking the freq for 15 seconds. You never know what else they may be organising on the other side of the mic...
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Old 10th Jul 2011, 07:14
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Yeah fair enough but is it anywhere in the Jepps? The plan is already in the system, so the details should already be there? I could understand this call if I was lodging details (i.e. no flight notification).
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Old 10th Jul 2011, 07:37
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Jepp ATC pg AU-714 6.1.2 "The pilot of an IFR flight departing from a non-towered aerodrome must report 'IFR' when making first contact with ATS."

As NZ said, sometimes people use this as a starting point to give ATC a chance to pick up their pen before you go into the barrage of information. You would be surprised how much other stuff the guy on the console has to do apart from talk to you. Plenty of times they will tell you to 'standby' while attending to another matter before your taxi call - especially when things are busy. Put yourself in the other bloke's shoes for a moment and see what you would prefer!
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