CASA part 66 feedback meeting
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Yep are correct in that asumption...At the meeting I was at they even disagreed amounst themselves..so wern't able to answer a few (Lot) of the questions raised..I suspect that the date of implementation will have to be changed due to the fact that "most" have not even recieved their "Draft" yet,so won't have the necessary time to report it. Mine is "wrong" but I suspect there will be a few others as well.."Morally" I should report the mistake but Not yet..I'll wait till the others get their "Drafts" before making any approach to them.
Yep are correct in that asumption...At the meeting I was at they even disagreed amounst themselves..so wern't able to answer a few (Lot) of the questions raised..I suspect that the date of implementation will have to be changed due to the fact that "most" have not even recieved their "Draft" yet,so won't have the necessary time to report it. Mine is "wrong" but I suspect there will be a few others as well.."Morally" I should report the mistake but Not yet..I'll wait till the others get their "Drafts" before making any approach to them.
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All I can say is that it is a joke. I too have had category's and licences that I should not have added to my Licence. I have since sent back my "update" It also does state that it is up to the LAME that they do look at their licence and let CASA know. Do you really want to end up in court or on air crash investigation for signing for something that you don't actually have?
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"Extras"...yep I have a few as well...I've never seen a few of them.!!.let alone worked on them..
From my understanding (I could be wrong)reading between the lines it appears that by 2015 C.A.S.A. will have nothing to do with Licencing of Engineers..It will be handled fully by the Tafes etc etc..Company Licences ??
I (and a few others) have "NO" intention of telling them of "their" mistake..Roll on 27/06/11..
"Extras"...yep I have a few as well...I've never seen a few of them.!!.let alone worked on them..
From my understanding (I could be wrong)reading between the lines it appears that by 2015 C.A.S.A. will have nothing to do with Licencing of Engineers..It will be handled fully by the Tafes etc etc..Company Licences ??
I (and a few others) have "NO" intention of telling them of "their" mistake..Roll on 27/06/11..
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fruitloop, you are so correct. Apparently the "industry have been asking for it for years" was what we were told at the meeting I attended. I was W.T.F.! More like some so and so's that decided that their wallets were not fat enough in the training department.
I will be very interested in what my Part 66 final licence will come out to be like. Also the other thing I want to question is no W,N,S or L before your licence, just your ARN like the pilots. So who knows now when a pilot or a LAME signs off on a MR or tech log!
I will be very interested in what my Part 66 final licence will come out to be like. Also the other thing I want to question is no W,N,S or L before your licence, just your ARN like the pilots. So who knows now when a pilot or a LAME signs off on a MR or tech log!
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Personly I think that using my ARN as opposed to Licence number makes me feel younger (Not all licences have Letters in front of them and are only 4 digits long)"I Must be old" !! LOL
I agree with the comment about "wallets" (organisations and/or companies)getting fatter and/or existing on peoples "assesments.
Roll on 27/06/11...and eventually 1/1/15 !!
Personly I think that using my ARN as opposed to Licence number makes me feel younger (Not all licences have Letters in front of them and are only 4 digits long)"I Must be old" !! LOL
I agree with the comment about "wallets" (organisations and/or companies)getting fatter and/or existing on peoples "assesments.
Roll on 27/06/11...and eventually 1/1/15 !!
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Part 66 avionics
Got my new licence last week. A lot of pages with a lot of exceptions, not easy to understand at all. I retained all I had (i think) and got a few others.
According to the letter I received it is my responsibility not to use the priviledges on my ne w licence unless I think I can! I am still not sure what that statement means.
One thing is clear to me Avionics is a dying trade whether you like it or not. I know a few 5 cat CAR 31 guys, who don't really have a clue about avionics but now have very impressive EASA licences. Those guys guys did really well from the change.
According to the letter I received it is my responsibility not to use the priviledges on my ne w licence unless I think I can! I am still not sure what that statement means.
One thing is clear to me Avionics is a dying trade whether you like it or not. I know a few 5 cat CAR 31 guys, who don't really have a clue about avionics but now have very impressive EASA licences. Those guys guys did really well from the change.
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I received my new licence a few days ago also. At first glance I was gobsmacked.. so many type I had not heard of, - let alone worked on.
With a few minutes research I started to make some sense of it all...
Having said that, I have licences from many countries and without any doubt this must be the most confusing.
The NZ version along with whole Parts 66, 43 and 91 interpretation seems to be miles ahead, - at least with the ratings I hold and operate.
The FAA Certificate is the size of a credit card...., the NZ licence a similar size. This CASA thing will grow into a book.
Inclusions, Exclusions... hmmm WTF. At least it may look impressive.
Oh well, just go with the flow I guess and flounder along with everyone else.
Change for the better ?
With a few minutes research I started to make some sense of it all...
Having said that, I have licences from many countries and without any doubt this must be the most confusing.
The NZ version along with whole Parts 66, 43 and 91 interpretation seems to be miles ahead, - at least with the ratings I hold and operate.
The FAA Certificate is the size of a credit card...., the NZ licence a similar size. This CASA thing will grow into a book.
Inclusions, Exclusions... hmmm WTF. At least it may look impressive.
Oh well, just go with the flow I guess and flounder along with everyone else.
Change for the better ?
4 years of Part 66
As it is now 4 years since this crap has been implemented how is that working out for you?
We were spun a lot of BS and confusion still reigns.
CASA emphasised that if you could do it in the past under the old licence we could continue to do in the future.
We were spun a lot of BS and confusion still reigns.
CASA emphasised that if you could do it in the past under the old licence we could continue to do in the future.
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Easa going to a system like we had. They said it was a much better system than what they have. That came straight from Casa mouth. It's a joke. Put someone on and you have no idea what they have what they don't. It's an absolutely laughing stock.
The only good thing is you don't have to pay for renewal every 24 months.
I guess that's a plus.
Other than that training company's that have gone up in smoke others that have had their approval pulled others that give you two rates one for a possible pass at $x and then state in the same add pay $xplus and you will pass.
Corruption plus.
A system that still not approved any where else in the world. And that's what it was all done for. Because as explained in the road show. They play AFL in Victoria. Yep that's was thier answer. Because AFL not played anywhere else. Great work.
Instant engineer just add water.
The only good thing is you don't have to pay for renewal every 24 months.
I guess that's a plus.
Other than that training company's that have gone up in smoke others that have had their approval pulled others that give you two rates one for a possible pass at $x and then state in the same add pay $xplus and you will pass.
Corruption plus.
A system that still not approved any where else in the world. And that's what it was all done for. Because as explained in the road show. They play AFL in Victoria. Yep that's was thier answer. Because AFL not played anywhere else. Great work.
Instant engineer just add water.
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Been fortunate enough to have my licences issued before the cut off date. Which I know now has been extended. I know many people pushed hard to make an application. My biggest concern is the lack of a pathway for apprentices for a licencing outcome.
WA's TAFE isn't an approved training provider but apprentices still have to attend because of funding rules .I don't believe that the NT has a training provider.
Friends got caught up in the the QIAE fiasco and are now 5th year apprentices who have to re-sit all their theory before getting passed out as tradesmen. Not sure the Archerfield provider has accreditation yet either.
Will be a definite lack of engineers in the future. You can scream that from the mountain tops but wont be heard. Guess Abbott is planning on bringing in Chinese LAME's
WA's TAFE isn't an approved training provider but apprentices still have to attend because of funding rules .I don't believe that the NT has a training provider.
Friends got caught up in the the QIAE fiasco and are now 5th year apprentices who have to re-sit all their theory before getting passed out as tradesmen. Not sure the Archerfield provider has accreditation yet either.
Will be a definite lack of engineers in the future. You can scream that from the mountain tops but wont be heard. Guess Abbott is planning on bringing in Chinese LAME's
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Check out the latest advertisments for LAMES......the money is less but a 457 visa is guaranteed.. !! I won't say which airlines but if you do a little digging it can be found out.. BTW they Now operate A320's !!
Check out the latest advertisments for LAMES......the money is less but a 457 visa is guaranteed.. !! I won't say which airlines but if you do a little digging it can be found out.. BTW they Now operate A320's !!
The Part 66 fiasco has cost me well in excess of $30k and about three years worth of recreational leave. Not only did I have to remove the avionics restrictions from my basic B1 license, but I have had to pay for and attend courses to remove the restrictions from each of the type ratings I currently use. In the meantime, the SOBs I work for, after telling me that my license was my responsibility, found that it was cheaper and easier import labour from overseas on 457 visas, that already had the 'magical' full B1 piece of paper.
This has already happened under the previous LABOR government - not that I am a fan of the current government either.
Ask SP from the ALAEA about the stonewalling he received from Chris Bowen, the Immigration Minister, when he was trying to stop the outright abuse of the 457 visa system at the time.
Guess Abbott is planning on bringing in Chinese LAME's
Ask SP from the ALAEA about the stonewalling he received from Chris Bowen, the Immigration Minister, when he was trying to stop the outright abuse of the 457 visa system at the time.
Sooner or later, many people work out that there is no substantial difference between Labor in power and the Coalition in power.
When the electorate is programmed to elect one or the other, both of them win. They know that their turn to suck the body politic dry will come around eventually. That's why, for example, the frequent travel and allowances scandals always involve politicians from both 'sides', but rarely lead to any substantial changes. It's also why the same people have been running aviation regulation in Australia for nearly two decades.
Whether people come to this realisation before they're thrown on the scrapheap is a different question. Given that it's still generally a one-side-or-the-other debate in Australia, I guess that many voters are still slow learners.
When the electorate is programmed to elect one or the other, both of them win. They know that their turn to suck the body politic dry will come around eventually. That's why, for example, the frequent travel and allowances scandals always involve politicians from both 'sides', but rarely lead to any substantial changes. It's also why the same people have been running aviation regulation in Australia for nearly two decades.
Whether people come to this realisation before they're thrown on the scrapheap is a different question. Given that it's still generally a one-side-or-the-other debate in Australia, I guess that many voters are still slow learners.
