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and could care less if you crashed and burned up
It's COULDN'T care less. COULDN'T!!
Could implies you care somewhat and have the capacity to care a little less..
F
ing American slang..(/unrelated_rant)
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Ronaldo69, not sure where you got those questions from but from my experience most of them are not true.
Q1. The pay. Yes the pay is not great at Susi Air. However, the cost of living in Indonesia is cheap and when you consider your housing, transport, food etc is also paid for it is possible to live from the salary. A starting Captains on $2,000USD tax free per month which is better than what starting crews are paid in the US on larger regional aircraft.
Q2. Fly in the worst weather on earth? Please, don't be so insulting. The weather in Europe, Alaska, Candada, USA can be much worse than here. None of the crews I have ever worked with WOULD EVER put themselves at risk of flying in any adverse weather. We ALL want to get home at the end of the day and enjoy our lives.
Q3. Lie and screw your friends? Maybe that says something about your personality, or your maturity level. Personally I don't need to lie or screw any of my friends.
Q4. Promise not to write up a snag. Never been an issue for me so far.
Q5.Work any amount of hours and fly overweight. Sorry mate but your seriously barking up the wrong tree here. We monitor our F & D times and daily have to upload them to the web so that adherence to the regs is maintained. As for flying overweight, I've done W & B on my legs and NEVER once have I nor any of the crew I have flown with EVER agreed to fly overweight. Either pax, baggage or cargo comes off, simple. It's our lives at the end of the day and so far I haven't flown with anyone who wants to shorten theirs or mine.
Q6. Re: Susi and Christian. OK I will grant you that you may have some truth in this comment.
Ronaldo69, I don't want to enter into any debate or slanging match with you. Maybe you were burnt by the company in the past I don't know and that is why you feel the way you do.
The company has it's good and bad points, but then so does everywhere. It's up to you what you make of the experience though. For the others I say come with your eyes wide open and enjoy the experience for what it is and that for most people is a very good start logging turbine time in brand new well equipped aircraft, especially when compared to the smaller backyard GA operators in other countries who fly 30 - 40 year old aircraft and do force their young naive pilots into working overweight, over hours etc.
Bankrunner, yes there are jobs available on the Porters. They don't come up very often though for good reason :-)
Q1. The pay. Yes the pay is not great at Susi Air. However, the cost of living in Indonesia is cheap and when you consider your housing, transport, food etc is also paid for it is possible to live from the salary. A starting Captains on $2,000USD tax free per month which is better than what starting crews are paid in the US on larger regional aircraft.
Q2. Fly in the worst weather on earth? Please, don't be so insulting. The weather in Europe, Alaska, Candada, USA can be much worse than here. None of the crews I have ever worked with WOULD EVER put themselves at risk of flying in any adverse weather. We ALL want to get home at the end of the day and enjoy our lives.
Q3. Lie and screw your friends? Maybe that says something about your personality, or your maturity level. Personally I don't need to lie or screw any of my friends.
Q4. Promise not to write up a snag. Never been an issue for me so far.
Q5.Work any amount of hours and fly overweight. Sorry mate but your seriously barking up the wrong tree here. We monitor our F & D times and daily have to upload them to the web so that adherence to the regs is maintained. As for flying overweight, I've done W & B on my legs and NEVER once have I nor any of the crew I have flown with EVER agreed to fly overweight. Either pax, baggage or cargo comes off, simple. It's our lives at the end of the day and so far I haven't flown with anyone who wants to shorten theirs or mine.
Q6. Re: Susi and Christian. OK I will grant you that you may have some truth in this comment.
Ronaldo69, I don't want to enter into any debate or slanging match with you. Maybe you were burnt by the company in the past I don't know and that is why you feel the way you do.
The company has it's good and bad points, but then so does everywhere. It's up to you what you make of the experience though. For the others I say come with your eyes wide open and enjoy the experience for what it is and that for most people is a very good start logging turbine time in brand new well equipped aircraft, especially when compared to the smaller backyard GA operators in other countries who fly 30 - 40 year old aircraft and do force their young naive pilots into working overweight, over hours etc.
Bankrunner, yes there are jobs available on the Porters. They don't come up very often though for good reason :-)
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June interview
Anybody know anything about how many pilots still needed and how many are invited for interview?
Is anyone going for the interview in Jakarta on the 17th of June? EXPENSIVE ticket!!
Is anyone going for the interview in Jakarta on the 17th of June? EXPENSIVE ticket!!
do they still have the 23yr old age requirement? I applied with them 2 years ago and got told, apart from the fact I wasn't 23, they'd have offered me a job no problems.
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June Interview
There is an ongoing need for new FO's as things begin picking up around the world. There is a continual turn over of Captains (and therefore FO's upgrading) as they get their 500 PIC and move on to shiny jet jobs/turboprops etc elsewhere.
I believe in the June interview they are looking for up to 10 FO's and pretty much a similar number each month going forward.
Susi Air signed for another 10 Caravans earlier this month which will bring the number in service this year to around 40 Caravans. 7 Porters and a few choppers.
Good luck.
I believe in the June interview they are looking for up to 10 FO's and pretty much a similar number each month going forward.
Susi Air signed for another 10 Caravans earlier this month which will bring the number in service this year to around 40 Caravans. 7 Porters and a few choppers.
Good luck.
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Not only interested in low time guys
G'day nomorecatering,
That rumour is not true. A recently bunch of guys who came through had anything from 500 hours up to 2000 hours TT.
Susi Air used to like the lower hour guys specifically because they knew that they would keep them for 2 years whilst they built up the hours before leaving.
Recently there was an ad on AFAP and they were asking for Captains with a minimum of 1200 hours, FO's 250 hours and flying instructors with 350 hours.
That rumour is not true. A recently bunch of guys who came through had anything from 500 hours up to 2000 hours TT.
Susi Air used to like the lower hour guys specifically because they knew that they would keep them for 2 years whilst they built up the hours before leaving.
Recently there was an ad on AFAP and they were asking for Captains with a minimum of 1200 hours, FO's 250 hours and flying instructors with 350 hours.
mmm I have 4000 hrs or there abouts, all of it instructing and basically had enough of the sheltered workshop. So am considering something different.
Have they sorted out the work visa issues, can one be legally emplyed in Indonesia. The rep at Avalon said they employ expats as they cant get enogh local pilots.True/false?
What about bases, are you allways moved around between bases. Can you be lucky and score a permanent base?
Has the flying school started yet?
is there anyway to get a car from Aus to indonesia. Is it worth taking a car. I have one reasonably new, all paid for, but if I sell it i'll lose money.
Have they sorted out the work visa issues, can one be legally emplyed in Indonesia. The rep at Avalon said they employ expats as they cant get enogh local pilots.True/false?
What about bases, are you allways moved around between bases. Can you be lucky and score a permanent base?
Has the flying school started yet?
is there anyway to get a car from Aus to indonesia. Is it worth taking a car. I have one reasonably new, all paid for, but if I sell it i'll lose money.
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You will initially be offered a 212 visa (Business visa) whilst they apply for your KETAS, which seem to be coming through quicker than they were in the past however you shouldn't expect it on day one. Everything takes time in Indonesia (karat jam = rubber time.) On the business visa you have to leave the country and re-enter every 60 days. It's a good opportunity to go to Singapore/KL etc for a day or two and stock up on things you can't get here as well as giving you a break.
As a FO you will be moved bases every 4 weeks roughly. Once you are a Captain you bid for your permanent base.
The flying school is looking for instructors again now (ground and flying positions.) As far as I know Susi can only employ foreign pilots and get a KETAS on the condition that for every foreigner she employs she pays a fee which is supposed to go towards training an Indonesian to do the same job. As for not being able to get enough local pilots, I believe that is the case although I don't work in recruiting and as such don't know about the applicants. I can say though that I have only met 3 Indonesian pilots amongst our ranks.
I would seriously not suggest bringing a car to this country. The roads are in such extremely poor state for a start. Drivers and cars are also so cheap that you can be driven around by locals in brand new air conditioned vehicles easily and cheaply. You'd also end up having to pay a few different officials a 'suap.'
As a FO you will be moved bases every 4 weeks roughly. Once you are a Captain you bid for your permanent base.
The flying school is looking for instructors again now (ground and flying positions.) As far as I know Susi can only employ foreign pilots and get a KETAS on the condition that for every foreigner she employs she pays a fee which is supposed to go towards training an Indonesian to do the same job. As for not being able to get enough local pilots, I believe that is the case although I don't work in recruiting and as such don't know about the applicants. I can say though that I have only met 3 Indonesian pilots amongst our ranks.
I would seriously not suggest bringing a car to this country. The roads are in such extremely poor state for a start. Drivers and cars are also so cheap that you can be driven around by locals in brand new air conditioned vehicles easily and cheaply. You'd also end up having to pay a few different officials a 'suap.'
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@flyhigh07 - Minimum age to apply is still 23. No maximum (a recent joiner is 52.)
@DHBrown - No, there is no pre-employment drug tests done.
@aseanaero - 45 aircraft as at mid July. 10 more Caravans on their way. 4 more Porters and 1 more Avanti.
@DHBrown - No, there is no pre-employment drug tests done.
@aseanaero - 45 aircraft as at mid July. 10 more Caravans on their way. 4 more Porters and 1 more Avanti.
