Why would Qantas choose the F100?
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Why would Qantas choose the F100?
Given Alan Joyce apparently announcing that Qantas will acquire 10 Fokker 100s, I was wondering why they picked that model (from a manufacturer that is bankrupt and no longer trading)?
There seem to be quite a lot of alternatives:
Having just stepped off a Boeing 717 today, I wondered why Qantas did not order more of those: they seem to be very reliable and nice to fly in?
I will be interested in the responses...
There seem to be quite a lot of alternatives:
- Airbus A318
- BAe 146
- Boeing 717
- COMAC ARJ21
- Bombardier Canadair Regional Jet
- Embraer E-Jets
- Fairchild Dornier 728 family
- Tupolev Tu-334
- Yakovlev Yak-42D
Having just stepped off a Boeing 717 today, I wondered why Qantas did not order more of those: they seem to be very reliable and nice to fly in?
I will be interested in the responses...
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Hi UFO,
I have my thoughts as to why, but not part of that sector did wonder why Q picked (and others) the F100.
Not looking for any type of gos just why this frames above others.
I have my thoughts as to why, but not part of that sector did wonder why Q picked (and others) the F100.
Not looking for any type of gos just why this frames above others.
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[QUOTE I was wondering why they picked that model (from a manufacturer that is bankrupt and no longer trading)?]
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I was wondering how many of those aircraft on your list are still manufactured ?
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I was wondering how many of those aircraft on your list are still manufactured ?
Well QANTAS didn't really. More like NETWORK, because they have two already and have the aircraft on their AOC, spares etc. The airframes are for FIFO not RPT, they seem to do an adequate job as do the B717 and Bae146/RJ so WHY NOT?
It's the ideal FIFO machine. Low cost to acquire, cheap to operate, performs well in the dessert, can land on short strips that are weight limited, the seat pitch suits the beer bellied miners, and they look mint!
Oh, and the punters love 'em!
Oh, and the punters love 'em!
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I'd love to see a Tupolev or Yak in Qantas colours. That would be awesome 
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Seriously, where are Qantas planning to source their F100s? I know Alliance buy them at the Nevada Desert garage sale, ferry them over and fit them out, is that the Qantas plan of attack as well?
. Seriously, where are Qantas planning to source their F100s? I know Alliance buy them at the Nevada Desert garage sale, ferry them over and fit them out, is that the Qantas plan of attack as well?
There seem to be quite a lot of alternatives:
Airbus A318 -
BAe 146- reputation precedes them, however as Cobham have proven, they do the job very well.
Boeing 717- too big 125 seats, too expensive, maybe ACN/PCN?
COMAC ARJ21- not at all familiar with this one, but too small, 2000 mts TORR sound a bit much unless they mean TODR in any case first of type and being a relatively new Chinese manufacturer, Not for me.
Bombardier Canadair Regional Jet- expensive and as Ansett/Kendals proved, don't do the job all that well.
Embraer E-Jets- ask Virgin about the E jet.
Fairchild Dornier 728 family- first of type with all the associated problems and 80 pax is probably too small.
Tupolev Tu-334- have o agree with WITW,
Yakovlev Yak-42D
Airbus A318 -
BAe 146- reputation precedes them, however as Cobham have proven, they do the job very well.
Boeing 717- too big 125 seats, too expensive, maybe ACN/PCN?
COMAC ARJ21- not at all familiar with this one, but too small, 2000 mts TORR sound a bit much unless they mean TODR in any case first of type and being a relatively new Chinese manufacturer, Not for me.
Bombardier Canadair Regional Jet- expensive and as Ansett/Kendals proved, don't do the job all that well.
Embraer E-Jets- ask Virgin about the E jet.
Fairchild Dornier 728 family- first of type with all the associated problems and 80 pax is probably too small.
Tupolev Tu-334- have o agree with WITW,
Yakovlev Yak-42D
Having just stepped off a Boeing 717 today, I wondered why Qantas did not order more of those: they seem to be very reliable and nice to fly in?
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I doubt Qantas would have announced the plan if they hadn't already arranged the purchase otherwise they might get caught out.
Why F100? Probably 'cause they are relatively cheap, a few spare parts in Australia as several operators using them. I'm guessing, but you could probably get 10 F100's for the cost of one B717.
No doubt someone out there in Ppruneland would have more accurate figures.
Why F100? Probably 'cause they are relatively cheap, a few spare parts in Australia as several operators using them. I'm guessing, but you could probably get 10 F100's for the cost of one B717.
No doubt someone out there in Ppruneland would have more accurate figures.
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Having just stepped off a Boeing 717 today, I wondered why Qantas did not order more of those: they seem to be very reliable and nice to fly in?
Probably because they are no longer in production.
Having just stepped off a Boeing 717 today, I wondered why Qantas did not order more of those: they seem to be very reliable and nice to fly in?
Probably because they are no longer in production.
There is a company attempting to put the Fokkers back into production, although I wouldn't hold my breath. Maybe QF knows something we don't.
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The distances involved, the hot conditions and short runways, the need to operate without any GSE or support and provide what passes for a premium service to Pax are what dictate the F100 I suspect.
Why would QF choose the F100's
Surely you guys see it, or is it just a case of reluctance to come out and say it.
QF intend to take XR on head to head in their own backyard, Network is simply the vehicle to do it.
As Network accquires XR's FIFO contracts, they will poach XR's F100 pilots, simple as that.
Now before you say why would XR's pilots do that, simply because they won't have much choice, if they want to continue flying the F100 and live in perth, there'll be no other options.
Like most pilots, choice of base "where you want to live" is the overriding factor in choosing who you work for. If there's a choice at all.
Surely you guys see it, or is it just a case of reluctance to come out and say it.
QF intend to take XR on head to head in their own backyard, Network is simply the vehicle to do it.
As Network accquires XR's FIFO contracts, they will poach XR's F100 pilots, simple as that.
Now before you say why would XR's pilots do that, simply because they won't have much choice, if they want to continue flying the F100 and live in perth, there'll be no other options.
Like most pilots, choice of base "where you want to live" is the overriding factor in choosing who you work for. If there's a choice at all.