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ATPL F/P exam

Old 17th Feb 2011, 12:11
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ATPL F/P exam

Hello all,

Self studied all exams, last one (flight planning) I'm loving the challenge
Ok to all you people out there that have "been there done that"
Whats the secret for speed?
I have been through study material once just starting practise test.But am I slow!
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Old 17th Feb 2011, 12:39
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Self studied F/P myself in SA and ran out of time the first time I sat it. Sorry to say it but it's practice practice practice. There is a lot to be said for question recognition.

Know your graphs, they can waste a lot of time, and have a sharp pencil.

Try and work out a structured method for working out curtain types of question. Air rang is a good one for this. That way when you get that sort of question you can just plug straight through.

And the last thing, I know it's so obvious but still gets me all the time. RTFQ!! The amount of time I've wasted trying to get the number to work in a PSR question only to realise I've been working in Kms not Kts.

Best of luck.
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Old 17th Feb 2011, 20:18
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ATPL F/P exam

I self studied and passed comfortably, so I'd say the key is a comprehensive set of notes with lots of practice questions + lots and lots of practice. (I also had the aviation theory centre flight planning book, which was a good read but there is no pratice material in it).

Start slow, build up the accuracy and develop a method for each type of question working slowly. Dont try to do an exam in the time limit available at first, you'll just be disappointed! Whenever i didnt get the answer in the notes, i worked back to find the exact point where i went wrong and re-worked the answer. (more practice). This assumes that the notes you are using have the full worked flight plan available.

Then gradually work up the speed.

I think with the F/P exam theere is more than enough time if you work steadily and accurately. Its when you make an error that you have to rework a significant part of the plan, or if you have to stop and ponder how to go about the answer - thats when you'll run out of time. I had 23 min up my sleeve at the end.

My 2c.

edit: the sequence of calculations that you need to perform is important for most questions. Get a feel for the best order to crunch the numbers. If you have to drop one line of thought to go do other calcs, its a loss of continuity and a great chance for errors to creep in.
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Old 17th Feb 2011, 21:28
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FP is very much time limited, so learn how to do things quickly and ACCURATELY!

There is no substitute for practise with this exam.

Check out the Flight Planning Tips & Tricks post for some more info on calculations.
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Old 17th Feb 2011, 21:46
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Check out the other thread on ATPL FP it in in this forum, it is a wealth of knowledge, everything that everyone says in this thread will be a rehash.

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Old 18th Feb 2011, 12:07
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Thanks guys for the inspiration.
I will get there I know,cheers all!
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Old 22nd Feb 2011, 02:14
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Atpl(a) Perf n Loading OR Flight planning first?

Hi All,
Dont hold this against me but i hold an Atpl(h) and considering doing some flying on the dark side. I have 3 Atpl(a) exams to go. Perf n Loading, Flight planning and Sytems. Im looking at going to Higgins again at AFT.

My question is what do you guys reccomend sitting first, performance and loading or flight planning. I know when i did the Heli Atpl's i did planning first and it flowed onto the performance syllabus somewhat.

Just curious to see what you all did. thanks again

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Old 22nd Feb 2011, 04:19
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Performance before Planning...
Ahh the joy of 20.7.1b

Do systems before or after the above, don't split them.

Systems was my 6th and air law 7th.
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Old 22nd Feb 2011, 05:57
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belly tank, if you go to AFT then the order is Flight Planning, Performance & Loading, Nav and then Systems. I doubt that it has changed since I did them there. That said, there is nothing to say that you have to sit the exams in that order if you wanted to delay sitting them.
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Old 22nd Feb 2011, 07:08
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Thanks Guys.

PLovett, thanks for the advice.

In the first session starting next month the have Planning first then Loading next exam. I spoke to them and they said that normally Performance is first as its a bit easier on the student before they tackle Planning.

For the rest of the year they have Performance first then Planning second. I really dont mind however just wanting to know if Planning leads into Perf n Loading thats all. Planning is 2 weeks in the classroom so im looking forward to that

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