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TC...you get the impression we are doing research for free
I just remember the last time it was a 182 held because an aircraft would land over the top of them.....and...clearly!...inside the separation standard...sooooo....Dick waits to be held for an IFR flight landing in the other direction so he can make the same noise but it is harder for a pleb to see the separation standard required for a possible missed approach (On a VFR day)
Make a rule that the tower can tell a pilot to cancel IFR and go visual..to facilitate traffic...even if the pilot cannot see traffic....does that still make them a conflict if the pilot cannot see them? Smith seems to think they will be no threat....Smith says so, so must be OK...???...NUP! that red hasn't kicked in enough...you're still talking BS, Mr Smith!
Then we have to make allowances for nuclear subs and cracked up helicopters that are supposed to find nuclear subs and end up with a broadside against the CDF and his staff...???...Maybe, Mr Smith drinks a good red.
...then...
We get a change in resposibility for the tower...a couple of years ago he wants a small class D tower for WLM so it doesn't hold him up on the coastal lane and NOW he wants a huge area for the tower out to the first class C step so those pesky approach controllers cannot hold him up on the coastal lane....cummon, Dick! What do you want?
Dick...do like everyone else does up there...if you are an occasional flyer, ring up the tower on the phone number in ERSA and ask them if there is any conflict for regular traffic around your ETA and then fit in with them...it IS their sandpit...not yours......AHHHHAAA! that is the problem...it's not YOUR sandpit and you have to play by someone else's rules....have I missed anything?
I just remember the last time it was a 182 held because an aircraft would land over the top of them.....and...clearly!...inside the separation standard...sooooo....Dick waits to be held for an IFR flight landing in the other direction so he can make the same noise but it is harder for a pleb to see the separation standard required for a possible missed approach (On a VFR day)
Make a rule that the tower can tell a pilot to cancel IFR and go visual..to facilitate traffic...even if the pilot cannot see traffic....does that still make them a conflict if the pilot cannot see them? Smith seems to think they will be no threat....Smith says so, so must be OK...???...NUP! that red hasn't kicked in enough...you're still talking BS, Mr Smith!
Then we have to make allowances for nuclear subs and cracked up helicopters that are supposed to find nuclear subs and end up with a broadside against the CDF and his staff...???...Maybe, Mr Smith drinks a good red.
...then...
We get a change in resposibility for the tower...a couple of years ago he wants a small class D tower for WLM so it doesn't hold him up on the coastal lane and NOW he wants a huge area for the tower out to the first class C step so those pesky approach controllers cannot hold him up on the coastal lane....cummon, Dick! What do you want?
Dick...do like everyone else does up there...if you are an occasional flyer, ring up the tower on the phone number in ERSA and ask them if there is any conflict for regular traffic around your ETA and then fit in with them...it IS their sandpit...not yours......AHHHHAAA! that is the problem...it's not YOUR sandpit and you have to play by someone else's rules....have I missed anything?
via Jack Ranga #142;
Ooooh but Bingha boy, Jack Ranga does own an aircraft
Jack Ranga has actually owned two, even got all the receipts! If you asked me how much I paid for the aircraft or any component I could tell you 
Has binga actually own an aircraft? mmmmmmmmm, can't find the receipts eh?
You could even come down to the hangar and have a look? Plenty of pruners have so far? Bit far from Perth I 'spose?
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Ooooh but Bingha boy, Jack Ranga does own an aircraft
Jack Ranga has actually owned two, even got all the receipts! If you asked me how much I paid for the aircraft or any component I could tell you Has binga actually own an aircraft? mmmmmmmmm, can't find the receipts eh?
You could even come down to the hangar and have a look? Plenty of pruners have so far? Bit far from Perth I 'spose?
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Google 'Flying Binghi' and you all may get an idea of what you are debating with here
His bulletin board and thread bannings make interesting reading
I have covered TCAS, TAS, TCAD and the like to counterpoint the argument that only the ADS-B offered a 'must have' traffic input. Clearly, when yer can see all the non-GPS based 'traffic' systems that have been around for a few years, and the limited fitment to the Oz GA fleet suggesting low importance, the traffic argument touted by The Chaser and others is nonsense.
"...can't find the receipts eh?..."
Well, Jack Ranga, i do have most of the receipts from day one of my flying - i do though get a little confused at times about what avionics mods were done to which aircraft..
"...Google 'Flying Binghi' and you all may get an idea of what you are debating with here..."
Hmmm, the old if yer caint win the argument, attack the poster routine..
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Take your rant someplace else, Binghi.You cannot even make good argument with the Ryan gear.....all that money and only a 180 seconds of warning. A garden variety non TSOd ADS-B Rx unit is good for VHF line of sight..
....just like your own personal SSR[/drift]
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OZBUSDRIVER, as has been pointed out before, repeatedly, there are many different traffic devices out there. Here's one, again...
"...SkyWatch monitors the airspace around an aircraft and indicates where to look for nearby transponder-equipped aircraft that may pose a collision threat — providing the “big picture” in traffic awareness at a fraction of the cost of TCAS. After receiving replies to its Mode C type interrogations, the SkyWatch system computes the responding aircraft’s range, bearing, relative altitude and closure rate — predicting potential traffic conflicts within an eleven mile range. Aural traffic alerts are annunciated through the aircraft’s existing audio system, and visual targets are displayed using TCAS-like symbols..."
L-3 Communications -> Products & Services -> SkyWatch Collision Avoidance Systems
...and OZBUSDRIVER, if yer concerned about thread drift then ah suggest yer take it up with The Chaser. That's the one ah were replying to around about post #123, and reference my prior comments; a close look-see at some of The Chaser claims about ADS-B shows one who is expert at spruiking the bull..
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Take your rant someplace else, Binghi.
You cannot even make good argument with the Ryan gear.....all that money and only a 180 seconds of warning. A garden variety non TSOd ADS-B Rx unit is good for VHF line of sight..
....just like your own personal SSR[/drift]
You cannot even make good argument with the Ryan gear.....all that money and only a 180 seconds of warning. A garden variety non TSOd ADS-B Rx unit is good for VHF line of sight..
....just like your own personal SSR[/drift]
"...SkyWatch monitors the airspace around an aircraft and indicates where to look for nearby transponder-equipped aircraft that may pose a collision threat — providing the “big picture” in traffic awareness at a fraction of the cost of TCAS. After receiving replies to its Mode C type interrogations, the SkyWatch system computes the responding aircraft’s range, bearing, relative altitude and closure rate — predicting potential traffic conflicts within an eleven mile range. Aural traffic alerts are annunciated through the aircraft’s existing audio system, and visual targets are displayed using TCAS-like symbols..."
L-3 Communications -> Products & Services -> SkyWatch Collision Avoidance Systems
...and OZBUSDRIVER, if yer concerned about thread drift then ah suggest yer take it up with The Chaser. That's the one ah were replying to around about post #123, and reference my prior comments; a close look-see at some of The Chaser claims about ADS-B shows one who is expert at spruiking the bull..
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Binghi, repeatedly your friends make the point:
'you don't own the aircraft and are not paying for the equipment so why should you have a say?'
Well binghi, I don't care what segment people come from, they have a say and the right to be heard. It was your side of the fence that brought aircraft ownership up not me. You bullsh!t about owning an aircraft, I want you to prove that you are an owner. I'm happy to prove that I am. If you are going to make claims prove it.
'you don't own the aircraft and are not paying for the equipment so why should you have a say?'
Well binghi, I don't care what segment people come from, they have a say and the right to be heard. It was your side of the fence that brought aircraft ownership up not me. You bullsh!t about owning an aircraft, I want you to prove that you are an owner. I'm happy to prove that I am. If you are going to make claims prove it.
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Guys,
I don't see what this line of argument has to do with the original thread.
Can you take it somewhere else and let this (willy issue) die a natural death...please
I don't see what this line of argument has to do with the original thread.
Can you take it somewhere else and let this (willy issue) die a natural death...please
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Scran - why don't you honour your offer of a few days ago to Dick, and let him have a chat to you on the 'phone ? I am sure he would love to talk to you and (as you say) you might be able to set him straight. (Or maybe the other way around). Once you have the chat, you can publish the results for all of us to see.
I care about what Dick says, because I am an aircraft owner and regularly fly through Willy.
By the way, to deride Dick as a "PPL" is pretty rough...he may not earn money from flying, but (I estimate) his 10,000 hours PIC (on numerous types) does allow him to voice an opinion surely ? (Even if a few of the regulars don't like it !).
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I care about what Dick says, because I am an aircraft owner and regularly fly through Willy.
By the way, to deride Dick as a "PPL" is pretty rough...he may not earn money from flying, but (I estimate) his 10,000 hours PIC (on numerous types) does allow him to voice an opinion surely ? (Even if a few of the regulars don't like it !).
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Arrrj,
I would, but I already know any call would be pointless - my mind is closed - remember?
And I didn't deride his as a PPL.......................
I would, but I already know any call would be pointless - my mind is closed - remember?
And I didn't deride his as a PPL.......................
Arrrj,
If you reckon Dick's merely expressing his opinion, I'd love to be around when he starts getting wound up about something.
Regarding:
Scran wrote:
It reads to me that Dick is carrying on like the media does: totally and utterly over the top.
does allow him to voice an opinion surely ?
Regarding:
I care about what Dick says, because I am an aircraft owner and regularly fly through Willy.
In my total of 5 years as a controller at Willy, I must have controlled almost a 1000 transits of the lane. I probably remember holding 2 or 3 due to Instrument approaches to Runway 30.
