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Old 15th Nov 2010, 05:58
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Piper forced landing Central coast?

Just caught the end of this story on CH10 News. Seems the trend of all things aviation is continuing in the media.

Seems a S/E Piper made a forced landing in a mud filled field somewhere on the central coast NSW(?) From the footage I caught it looked bogged half way up the wheel spats. Report was the forced landing was made due to bad weather and "very poor visibility". Looking out the window, the weather around the Hunter is very bleak and I wouldn't of liked to be up there VFR. Anyway looked like a fair effort to keep it off its roof after touch down. Also showed 2 pilots walking away.

Anyone else see/hear this? Sorry for the sketchy details
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Story just lead NBN news.

19yo BASAIR student in a Warrior on solo nav. Tried to return to Bankstown but weather prevented, tried to divert to Warnervale but weather closed that out too, ended up landing in Warrnambool wet lands. Looks like it will take some recovering as well

Story was then followed by the QF turn back
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Shocker of a day to be flying VFR, especially as a student. The instructor who signed him off ought to have something to answer for.
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Teenage pilot makes emergency landing | The Daily Telegraph
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Who ever signed the student off, mate.....you've done a great job in teaching him/her how to do Prec. Search & Land!!!

Where's that page about common sense in the ops manual?? I couldn't find it when i was going thru it
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Beautiful job in doing 'that' 'THERE'...

Look mum, it didn't 'flip'.....Must be fairly 'solid' under the surface water/mud.

Well done that man.

And, if as all say, the wx was 'that crappy', then the co. deserves the expense / time / effort of getting it out....IMHO...

Good place to practice those 'short fielders'...
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Look mum, it didn't 'flip'.....Must be fairly 'solid' under the surface water/mud.

Well done that man.
Fully concur, well done young man. Remember me Mum having to hitch hike to her destination after a ride in an Arrow with Chris Sperou ended with a precautionary landing in a wheat paddock due weather. No damage, and was many, many, many decades ago.
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Precautionary landings

Sure, there is probably some critsism to be levelled somewhere (why out on such a bleak day/who sent him out) but, and I have asked this question long ago on these forums, it would take a ton of courage to slot it down somewhere like that. A lot of pilots in the past, and will in the future will end up as smears on a hill somewhere by pressing on VFR into bad Wx.

Back when I was just a little pilot and thought I knew better it nearly happened to me, and it was a lesson well learnt. I pressed on when I shouldn't have and could have easily ended up a statistic. I was lucky, but Australia is littered with wrecks of those that were not so fortunate...

Takes a lot of courage to say that you made a mistake, and rather than make it worse (write of a plane/kill yourself doing it) to suck it up and stick it down the best place you can. Whomever you are, own your mistake and don't let this valuable lesson be lost on you.
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Didn't the instructor check the wx today, Sydney had tempo all day and when I landed today the cloud was down to 400 feet and vis 5000m.

This pilot was lucky, for those of us who are older enough to remember the Trindad crash in the Blue Mountains that claimed the lifes of the 2 pilots who tired to go VFR on an IFR day, the school who hired them the aircraft should never have let them go and yhem same could have occured to day.
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I agree, well done that man to keep it up right

I cant imagine an instructor letting a VFR student up on a day like today. Police said on the news he was up "getting his hours up", hell of a day for it. As a student I can just see my instructor asking me before going on a solo nav are you going to go in weather like this? Answer no, pat on the back, good decision. Answer yes, swift right palm around back on head, back in the theory room rookie. Anyway, I bet there's some solid lessons learned, he was able to walk away much wiser, and Ive got another reason to think twice about "fueling up and blasting off" into bad WX.
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Well done to the student pilot!
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I was driving down the F3 about that time. lot of heavy showers that developed into drizzilling rain. Even the viz on the ground was poor from wyong to wahroonga, drove most of the way at 90klmh.
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We may be jumping the gun with the criticisms of the school, or at least the instructor. I haven't read any information indicating he was on a solo ppl nav, he may well have a ppl, been away for a day of two hour building for his cpl, and decided independently to return in crap weather, in which case a good result for a precautionary landing, poor judgement shown regarding weather and a kick up his 19 yr old are is due.
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sooo where does warrnambool play into this?? curious, because im from that area!
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Spelling mistake, read the article, it was wamberal ( spelling)
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Thats my fault, I was getting it from the TV.
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Old 15th Nov 2010, 23:16
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Did the tide come in?
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When I first started my training back in 1982 my now late Father told me of his wings training in Canada in mid 1942.

On days of crappy weather his Instructor would walk into the readiness room and announce
''Gentlemen, today the weather is so bad the birds are walking.......and so are you!''

Even so, he recounted several losses in his course due to weather.

The Basair student did well. He managed to walk away from something that could have had a far more tragic outcome.
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Good job to the guy for getting it down anyway. Bet he wont want to fly in anything other than CAVOK for quite some time!!
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Well done to the pilot for his recovery. Now the instructor who signed him out and the flying school need a long hard look at there operation.
Maybe shut all flying schools down and start again. And sack all CASA FOI's and start again. I know I'm dreaming.
Increase experience levels for instructors and pay levels and get career instructors and retired pilots to come back and put there experience back into the industry.

Now ducking for cover lol
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