Piper forced landing Central coast?
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I don't get it. IF and just to make it really clear IF this guy private hired the aircraft, went away for a couple of days what do you expect the instructor or school to do?
If you have any experience at all you would know just because Bankstown was crap and even the forescaste wasn't good, does not mean the actual weather is not suitable, especially 100+ miles away. Once you hire an aircraft you rely on the hirer to make appropriate decisions.
Now if he was signed out to do a solo nav in crap weather then yes, crucify the school, the instructor the lot, but I certainly haven't seen that info anywhere here or in the media.
If you have any experience at all you would know just because Bankstown was crap and even the forescaste wasn't good, does not mean the actual weather is not suitable, especially 100+ miles away. Once you hire an aircraft you rely on the hirer to make appropriate decisions.
Now if he was signed out to do a solo nav in crap weather then yes, crucify the school, the instructor the lot, but I certainly haven't seen that info anywhere here or in the media.
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Poor decision to let a student out in that weather!
Poor decision to put the plane down where he did, surely he could have descended as low as possible over water to remain clear of cloud and headed north for YPEC. anywho he is alive to fly another day
Poor decision to put the plane down where he did, surely he could have descended as low as possible over water to remain clear of cloud and headed north for YPEC. anywho he is alive to fly another day
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Poor decision to put the plane down where he did
We don't know what the options were for him at the time, and putting it down where he did may well have been the best one. VFR into IMC is a big killer and this guy did well not to become another statistic.
Poor decision to put the plane down where he did
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Hope it's a 3WD
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Where does it say he's a student pilot?
What on earth could Sydney radar do about the weather?
Aeropelican has been closed for several years, I wonder if he even knew existed!
What on earth could Sydney radar do about the weather?
Aeropelican has been closed for several years, I wonder if he even knew existed!
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Could he not have called up Sydney Radar and get vectored out of trouble?
I heard Melbourne radar trying to do that in similar conditions for a 172 in low cloud near Kilmore and each suggestion was carefully followed with "but of course that's just a suggestion, you do what you think is safe."
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Ypec open.
Really I wasn't aware. What goes on up there now?
He may well be a student, but relying on accurate info from the news? Not me.
Really I wasn't aware. What goes on up there now?
He may well be a student, but relying on accurate info from the news? Not me.
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He may well be a student, but relying on accurate info from the news? Not me.
I haven't seen anything flying in or out around YPEC for a long while and its not listed in the current ERSA so its very possible he didnt know about it or over looked it while looking for fields on the maps. In bad weather it can be a tricky approach(so I'm told from ex-pelican pilots) across the lake or beach with a bit of wind and no lighting would also make it harder in bad vis.
I know the weather around here was pretty bad yesterday, while his field selection might not have been the best, he's alive and the plane is in one piece, I say pretty good effort. As stated, easy to make the best decision from where Im sitting atm. I'm sure the facts/rumors will come out around YBSK very soon anyway
Last I heard YPEC was owned by Mirvac who are trying to do a deal that will get them Warnervale (for redevelopment) in exchange.
As far as the forced landing goes, we don't have facts, but it sounds like he left his decision to land somewhere too late. He was lucky.
As far as the forced landing goes, we don't have facts, but it sounds like he left his decision to land somewhere too late. He was lucky.
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Sorry all my bad 
, however, according to the latest ERSA (http://www.airservicesaustralia.com/...8-Nov-2010.pdf), Bentleg is correct in saying the land is owned by Mirvac at present, so I guess you could say it is open somewhat, just still need prior apporval
, however, according to the latest ERSA (http://www.airservicesaustralia.com/...8-Nov-2010.pdf), Bentleg is correct in saying the land is owned by Mirvac at present, so I guess you could say it is open somewhat, just still need prior apporval