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Old 7th Nov 2010, 06:45
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Hardest ATPL subject?

Hello

I have some time off from work shortly and I wish to finish one ATPL subject.
Which one would be the hardest?


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Old 7th Nov 2010, 15:08
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Flight Planning, Aerodynamics & Systems, Navigation - they're all friggin' hard.
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Flight Planning followed by Flight Planning, which narrowly peeps Flight Planning as the hardest subject.
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Old 7th Nov 2010, 20:58
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I think Flight Planning was the most difficult mainly because you risk running out of time in the exam. Air Law was my lowest scoring exam though.
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Disagree: Flight Planning is much harder than the three you mentioned!
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None of them are particularly hard, Flight planning is difficult to get done in the time available in the exam.

As with all exams the results you get are directly proportional to the effort you put in.

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Old 7th Nov 2010, 22:56
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Do Navigation and Performance before attempting flight planning as it'll lay the foundation.

If you want a quick one try Met, was easiest in my opinion and will get you off to a good start.
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Flight Planning is a problem because by the time you realise you have stuffed up a calculation (and their are a lot of them) you don't have enough time to go back and fix the problem. And these larger questions are worth 5 Marks.
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Flight Planning.

Anyone up for a poll ? Would be interesting to see the figures.
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Old 8th Nov 2010, 02:29
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flight planning...

oh lawd why didnt i get this out of the way earlier?! im ****ting brix here thinking about starting this subject

self studied systems - it was interesting which made studying easy - but a lot of people hate that one too. i loved it

im gona go put my head under a blanket and pretend ive already done flight planning
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Hardest: The next one you've got booked

Easiest: Any you've already passed
 
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Systems. So many little things to remember. I guess self study makes it a little harder. I had my best marks in flight planning out of all 7. Then again I always did like maths. I think the key for flight planning is practice x 100, and then start at the back (ie highest marks, longest q's) and work backwards.
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Flight Planning was a pain in the neck for me. I failed twice and the third time had questions on depressurised situations so I didn't have to look for other data and therefore did not run out of time.
Agk is a little tricky too. (2 times for me)
Out of every single exam I've done, those 2 subjects are the only ones I failed.
The actual process of obtaining an answer for fl. plan ?'s isn't hard in itself, it's just time consuming. The chance of pressing the wrong button on the calculator is a factor too. PITA
I too suggest performance and navigation before flight planning, It will help.
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I reckon the question should be which ones are the easy ones?

Navigation was worst for me but Principles can be pretty tricky if they want to and Flight Planning is not easy that's for sure.
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Old 8th Nov 2010, 21:02
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Plan your approach

They all have their nuances and as such need to be treated with different study techniques. Are they wrote learning ones, assimilation ones, ones with equations and problem solving or do they test your ability to find something in a text? Depending on how good you are at each of the above styles will be the decider on how hard (or easy) they are.

That being said, the subjects themselves and the content within are not by any means complex. It comes down to your ability to be belt fed masses of info, decide what is important, then be able to regurgitate it.

There are degrees of difficulty however, which is why you need to plan the order in which you do them.

I did HUF, MET, NAV, PER, PLA, SYS then LAW……this worked for me and they seemed to build on each other fairly well.

The hardest for me was Sys simply due to the mass on info…..followed by planning (primarily due to fat fingers and little buttons on the clac).
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How many do you have left hoFF?
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Two to go... FP & AGK. It's funny, I think ASL has installed a device that erases my brain of all ATPL related info that pertains to the subject I've just completed as soon as the KDR prints out
 
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...then start at the back (ie highest marks, longest q's) and work backwards.
I did this and didn't like it. The first (last) question took nearly 30 minutes which made me panic and start rushing. In the end I finished with 20 minutes to spare and could've spent more time on the longer ones.
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Old 8th Nov 2010, 21:47
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Self studied all exams, except Flight Planning. Paid someone to teach me the short cuts, was standing in the CASA office submitting my ATPL application before the 3 hours had elapsed...
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You're kidding right? Which ONE?, at a time is hardest?

Get your act together, do them all together, integrate your knowledge and apply it on the flight deck.

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