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I guess morno was referring to the advice on offer in the email response you received. You sound like a kid. Each of your posts screams with immaturity.
Buddy is spelt with 2 D's douche bag. It would seem that possibly some of the points in the reply email may in fact apply to you. Maybe you should go check your cv and cover letter for spelling mistakes.
Let me guess, your one of the guys who got knocked back because of grammatical errors in your CV? Well maybe you deserved to read it but not me budy....
younggun
Oh so you edited out your little 'suck me off' comment then, was that to avoid being seen as immature? Betcha didn't thunk anyone wud see huh?
Are you sure this isn't you?
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j3
Oh so you edited out your little 'suck me off' comment then, was that to avoid being seen as immature? Betcha didn't thunk anyone wud see huh?
Are you sure this isn't you?
YouTube - Angry German Kid
j3
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wow guys
your is not the same as 'you are',.... you're.
Similarly
Whose and 'who is',... who's
Who's vs Whose - e Learn English Language
Is it just me, or do other readers cringe with some of this stuff.
Education... say what !!
Pilot... more like Pillock
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Do we need a special Forum just for the Spotties.. ?
your is not the same as 'you are',.... you're.
Similarly
Whose and 'who is',... who's
Who's vs Whose - e Learn English Language
Is it just me, or do other readers cringe with some of this stuff.
Education... say what !!
Pilot... more like Pillock
Do we need a special Forum just for the Spotties.. ?
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GG
I am of the old grumpy generation.
I can't get over the level of education. To and too.
Sure I can tolerate a little of the exuberance of youth but I cannot bring myself to comment on the content..... is it dribble or drivel ?
Either way it is not a good reflection on the younger generation of pilots.
I believe many are wannabes and dreamers.... that cheers me a little.
Some of you guys are bringing a good balance to the thread, well done.
I don't see it as flaming.
I also worked for AAA.
My posts are directed at those that have not, - or cannot...
They can't for all too apparent reasons.
I am of the old grumpy generation.
I can't get over the level of education. To and too.
Sure I can tolerate a little of the exuberance of youth but I cannot bring myself to comment on the content..... is it dribble or drivel ?
Either way it is not a good reflection on the younger generation of pilots.
I believe many are wannabes and dreamers.... that cheers me a little.
Some of you guys are bringing a good balance to the thread, well done.
I don't see it as flaming.
I also worked for AAA.
My posts are directed at those that have not, - or cannot...
They can't for all too apparent reasons.
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If you wish to blame Gen Y for things, fine, feel free. I am not ashamed. I am happier then you.. Physically and mentally. In my heart I’m just happy.... Be ashamed... that’s your problem. the point to your post?
I also assume that because you have been watching for a 'long time' that you have seen many posts of people that are/have been waiting 12+ months with 100+ applications sent. It doesn't happen over night..
Suck it up, you didn't get through, take it on the chin, and move on. Apply the lessons learned to the next application..
But, you won't go far keeping up this attitude..
Why have they had to advertise for jr pilots in the first place judging by the number of applicants they should have no problem finding pilots surley they have guys knocking on the door every day looking for work.
As for struggler123's post about the tigermoth world job with the cut and paste questionnaire...
Please Affix Current Photo Here
I'll let that one slip.
What do your mum and dad do and where do they live?
Did you pay for your flying yourself?
How was it funded
How was it funded
Now aside from this grammar-nazi **** storm that is occuring here with the trolls all I want to add is this: Good on the CP for writing back with some advice. As someone who just spent the earlier part (unsuccessfully in some ways) looking for my first GA gig I think its good that he at least took the time to reply. I think about 1 in 20 resume's I e-mailed out got replies with a "thanks but no thanks" and about 2 or 3 chief pilots in the whole of the WA (I searched AOC's and determined which companies were doing single engine scenics/charter work and contacted them on the phone before I left Melbourne) spoke to me for more than 30seconds.
To them I am grateful because they didnt make me feel like "oh look another fkn fresh CPL sucker looking for work bothering me again...".Having said that I popped into AAA mid this year and spoke with the CP back then (I believe there's a new one there). Spoke to the guy and another senior pilot and they were very friendly and it was a good experience.
Just my $0.02
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'long time watcher first time poster'
Get your facts right before you waste your time posting. I dont know why you think I am a first time watcher..
Second, what attitude are we talking about here?
I was just giving my point of view.....
'long time watcher first time poster'
Get your facts right before you waste your time posting. I dont know why you think I am a first time watcher..
Second, what attitude are we talking about here?
I was just giving my point of view.....
Attention to detail
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Having said that I popped into AAA mid this year and spoke with the CP back then (I believe there's a new one there). Spoke to the guy and another senior pilot and they were very friendly and it was a good experience.
I feel for Young gun...As i used to be in this guys position back in the day... rejection after rejection and to top it off a reply like that from the CP can be very shattering and this can lead to depression and all sorts of other things. I don't blame him AND I think it was good for the CP to write up a reply but it was a bit unprofessional and seems to be taking the piss... and it was cut and pasted which makes it even more horrible...I guess you have to take the positives out of the negatives which isn't much but some old CP having a cry.
Keep your chin up YG! You have to follow your dream! and if that is to become a Professional Pilot, working for an Airline, don't let the negative posts on PPRuNe become a distraction. You will notice that not all Airlines require an educational degree as a pre-requisit, rather they are more interested in log-book hours and experience - Eg Rex. A Degree/Diploma may be looked more favorably upon when you are up against someone at the interview stage who hasn't got one.
There have been many Cadets put through the Rex Cadetship and while it is true they will need ICUS time to meet the 2000hrs Total Aeronautical Experience, and 500hrs Pilot In Command requirement stipulated by CASA before they can qualify and are able to act as a Captain, it will be a large load on the company with regard to resources, as ICUS time can only be logged with a Training Captain in the right hand seat. This could be in the vicinity of 8 months per Candidate. The point being, If you were to join Rex now, you'll be on the bottom of the Seniority List, and promotion is rewarded with reference to this list. (Many above you.)
Now for the Advice - If Aviation is where you see yourself, get fully qualified -CPL, MECIR, and complete the ATPL Subjects. (Possibly your Degree) That there alone without your degree from start to finish will cost in the vicinity of $80.000 privately, and a very SOLID years worth of work. Going up North is exactly what I recommend, as it gives you good experience and hours along with discipline. You will meet other Pilot's doing the same as you, who will become friends for life, remembering these people share the same passion as you do.
Aviation has always been up and down, however, the people who don't get the jobs are the ones who aren't willing to move and live in remote areas. Aviation at the lower levels requires a sacrifice to go further. Not only will it be a hard journey, you will have the best time of your life at the same time and will see places that only city folk could dream of seeing. When you build your hours up after a couple of years and apply to Rex or whoever it may be, you'll be applying for a direct enty roll, and not a cadetship. If you were to be employed with Rex for example, even though you will be on the bottom of the seniority list below the Cadets, when it comes time for an upgrade to Captain, you would be looked more fonldy upon as you meet the requirements for the Command without having to do the ICUS which there WILL be a wait for, for the reasons mentioned previously regarding resources.
Rex Cadetship Bond - 6 years. Rex Direct Entry Bond - 2 years. In my opinion, you will get a command quicker by applying Direct Entry keeping in mind that you will have had that remote, Single Pilot experience, along with that Single Pilot Command time in your logbook.
Final Thought - The People in Aviation who can't get jobs are usually NOT willing to leave home and put in the "HARD" yards. Flight instructing at a Capital is only in my view, a way of delaying the inevitable move up North. Remember, Have everything done before you move, that way once you have your hours, you can apply and start flying for an Airline straight away without having to do ATPL subject in between.
This is only my thought, AAA is not the only company. I wish you all the best, as I was 18 years old once, (Not too long ago) and the hole process was very daunting, but very worth while.
A7
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Young gun.
Great way to edit post #42 as well mate! And just a question, if you 'accidentally' typed 'suck me off' into this window and hit submit, where did you intend to type that? The mind boggles...
The attitude you are displaying on this forum is one of a spoilt child who needs a kick in the ar5e. If you continue to display this attitude in the real world, you will get no-where in aviation. So you got a rejection letter that you didn't like, so what? Dust yourself off and keep trying, go and get a H license, never give up. It all depends how badly you want to fly. I know a guy who is flying red jets who kept EVERY rejection letter he got from GA to the airlines, I think the final count was about 60, so harden the f*ck up!
Alternatively, give up, go back south and tell everyone in the office you'll end up working in that you're a 'pile-it'. Your call.
I personally hope I never have to fly with you.
j3
Great way to edit post #42 as well mate! And just a question, if you 'accidentally' typed 'suck me off' into this window and hit submit, where did you intend to type that? The mind boggles...
The attitude you are displaying on this forum is one of a spoilt child who needs a kick in the ar5e. If you continue to display this attitude in the real world, you will get no-where in aviation. So you got a rejection letter that you didn't like, so what? Dust yourself off and keep trying, go and get a H license, never give up. It all depends how badly you want to fly. I know a guy who is flying red jets who kept EVERY rejection letter he got from GA to the airlines, I think the final count was about 60, so harden the f*ck up!
Alternatively, give up, go back south and tell everyone in the office you'll end up working in that you're a 'pile-it'. Your call.
I personally hope I never have to fly with you.
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wrt your post 42.
Maybe the points in the email were not directed at you and your application. But think of the other 100+ applicants that it did apply to. This guy has done them a favour by taking the time to point out the deficiencies in their applications and offered them advice so that they may have a better chance with the next company they apply to.
Have you thought to reply to his email and let him know just how much he hurt your feelings? Or did you simply choose to attack him via an anonymous forum?
You say
Think that in fact it may be you who needs therapy. Toughen up princess.
Maybe the points in the email were not directed at you and your application. But think of the other 100+ applicants that it did apply to. This guy has done them a favour by taking the time to point out the deficiencies in their applications and offered them advice so that they may have a better chance with the next company they apply to.
Have you thought to reply to his email and let him know just how much he hurt your feelings? Or did you simply choose to attack him via an anonymous forum?
You say
3) HE NEEDS A THERAPIST!!!
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Young gun,
As an old bloke once said to me "Another knock back; another step closer to your next job!"
Not trying to tell you how to suck lemons, but you need to grow a very thick skin in this industry. My second week in after scoring a job I was replaced, sacked less than two years later due to no work. Drove 500km in the middle of the night dodging 'roos to my next job for 30 hours of work, for which I was greatful for.
In the space of two years, I've had more knockbacks than you can count - just like yourself. Frustrating stuff I know!
Now I'm doing something entirely different for a few hours here and there. I haven't even hit 500TT yet. As you can tell, I don't get in the air much - just fill in here and there.
Take everything you read here with a grain of salt. Want to make it in this industry? Keep your mouth shut; chin up and keep on ticking away at those hours, no matter how hard it seems. If you quit trying now, some snotty nosed kid is going to walk straight into that job that could have been yours! I've seen it myself.
You've come this far, keep at it!
As an old bloke once said to me "Another knock back; another step closer to your next job!"
Not trying to tell you how to suck lemons, but you need to grow a very thick skin in this industry. My second week in after scoring a job I was replaced, sacked less than two years later due to no work. Drove 500km in the middle of the night dodging 'roos to my next job for 30 hours of work, for which I was greatful for.
In the space of two years, I've had more knockbacks than you can count - just like yourself. Frustrating stuff I know!
Now I'm doing something entirely different for a few hours here and there. I haven't even hit 500TT yet. As you can tell, I don't get in the air much - just fill in here and there.
Take everything you read here with a grain of salt. Want to make it in this industry? Keep your mouth shut; chin up and keep on ticking away at those hours, no matter how hard it seems. If you quit trying now, some snotty nosed kid is going to walk straight into that job that could have been yours! I've seen it myself.
You've come this far, keep at it!
Seasonally Adjusted
Apologies for slight thread drift, just attempting to lighten the mood a little on here.
Two of the original pilots from AAA when it was a Kalgoorlie based company.
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Taken some time in 1996.
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Young gun, it is people like you we do not need in this industry. end of story.
To everyone else. thanks for the input, but i to was unfortunately unable to secure the position. Response email was satisfactory and helpful in my opinion.
Birddog
To everyone else. thanks for the input, but i to was unfortunately unable to secure the position. Response email was satisfactory and helpful in my opinion.
Birddog
