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Old 23rd Sep 2010, 05:30
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Jetstar Cadetship??

What's the latest on this wonderful scheme to print money for the one star airline?

Has anyone accepted/been accepted to the scheme and started their training?

Has anything official been produced for cadets detailing Terms & Cond of the scheme....?

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Old 23rd Sep 2010, 09:14
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From what I have heard in NZ:
$120k for the training, PPL to type rating. pay frozen at $63k for 4 years. Also offering work experience at Bunnings on the weekends as well.

I'll take regular piston GA over Jet GA anyday.
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Old 23rd Sep 2010, 10:04
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And if you can't afford the $120K upfront, then you can salary sacrifice $30K P/A for that 4 years!

End result: $34K P/A (Kiwi!) for an A320 First Officer!
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they want people to pay them for a job for f%^K sake what ****e.
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Old 23rd Sep 2010, 10:55
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I see Oxford are advertising for an ATO again...
I assume they'd be offering a bucketload of cash for such a position considering their cadet contract, yet no takers??
Could it be that those experienced for such a role want nothing to do with this dodgy scheme? I think they may have an issue filling senior training roles with experience pilots with real world experience, then who's going to train cadets?? Brand spanking Gr3s looking for hours, and the graduates are supposed to come out at a higher standard than experienced GA drivers...how is that going to work?
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$34000 kiwi is $26000 aus How is one suppose to live on that much Are those figures accurate Krusty? For the sake of those on the cadetship i hope not
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Only if they allow you to salary sacrifice MCKES. Just basic arithmetic. If not, I guess you can gross the entire $64K. Whooohoo!!!

However you will have to find the $120K up front. Having rich or mind numbingly naive and or generous parents would be a definite advantage!
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Old 23rd Sep 2010, 22:54
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$34000 kiwi is $26000 aus
Better off at REX as an FO.
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Translating it into Aus dollars isn't very useful unless you intend to spend the money in Australia. Exchange rates don't work that neatly.

That being said it is definitely crap money, BUT as an aspiring pilot it probably seems a lot more attractive than spending say $50,000 on training to MECIR and flying clapped out pistons in GA earning similar $$$ then still having to fork out $30,000 for an A320 rating when you get through your Jetstar interview having taken the long way around.
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Or doing a trade (and not having to pay for your training) that will set you up for the future. Giving you real choices about which direction you take in life, having real choices that are not dictated by seniority or management 'rules' or skewed 'market' forces.

Or doing a degree, which you will have to pay for but will get a return on investment.

Ahhhh, financial freedom that will allow you to choose how you will enjoy your aviation passion
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Sounds good in theory Jack', but when it comes to flying, a lot of rational thought goes out the window. In the past these non-rational, driven individuals were in sufficient numbers to satisfy the demands of all air operators, not just the airlines.

Now, a large proportion of youngsters couldn't give a rats about flying for a living. The "driven" types are definitely much thinner on the ground, and many of those who aspire to a career in aviation are thinking before they leap. On the surface that may seem like a good thing to do, but to suceed in this game, logic must sometimes give way to passion, at least in the beginning. Those that weigh up the pros' and cons' of a flying career rather than those that just go out and get their arse into an aeroplane, may be thinking rationally, but will it be the career that they hoped it would be? With todays offerings from the corporate snakeoil salesmen, I see a trail of disilusioned, bitter and twisted individuals, who in hindsight, probably should have gone on to do something else!
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Ladies and gentlemen.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE......GET THE F**K OVER IT.

Lets all be helpful here. The name of the thread isn't asking what you think of this program!

I'm asking can anyone that has gone though the testing process to give information about the selection process and what needs to be focused on if you plan on getting past the stages??


Please just help out....i think we all got the F**KEN point after 2 threads have been locked, lets not make this a 3rd.

So, if anyone has done the testing can you please tell us how you went and what sort of testing was conducted?
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Ladies and gentlemen.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE......GET THE F**K OVER IT.
Umm... no

Please just help out....i think we all got the F**KEN point after 2 threads have been locked, lets not make this a 3rd.
The fewer people that are encouraged to sign up to this abomination the better.
 
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Well said Hasselhof.

For someone like yourself that could go from no job pistons to RHS jet to say this shows that you are obviously not fooled by Shiny Jet Syndrome.

Don't worry mate you'll get there nearly as quickly and will be able to shop at places other than Best and Less.

Wrote a cracker of a post about this a while back you might have liked..
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I was sitting an ATPL just before Christmas and I was the ONLY person in there that wasn't a J* cadet... All ab-initio and sitting their CPL exams, so there has been plenty of uptake by the looks of it.

I asked what happens should they fail any exams and just got a bunch of "I wouldn't have a ing clue!" looks.

So not sure if there is any QA and assessment/re-assessment happening over there, or at the very least the poor buggers don't know what happens should they get booted off the course.

Make what you will of the above, but food for thought...
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I pity the guys in the LHS at Jetstar.
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And not just because of the cadets.
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Well put it this way, it couldn't possibly get any worse, unless people start paying to work.
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Well put it this way, it couldn't possibly get any worse, unless people start paying to work.
Standing by.

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PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE......GET THE F**K OVER IT.
Now young lady, "playing" the man doesn't mean swearing and being aggressive. I've met plenty of female pilots who are assertive, conscientious and extremely good at their jobs without being aggressive or rude.
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I've put an application through to apply for the Jetstar Ab-initio Cadetship via CTC and i''ve just got an email saying that i've progressed to stage 2.

I can understand where all of you are coming from. To be honest it's not about the money but it's BLOODY embarrassing that you have to pay $295nz, just so you can be there and be tested...i mean that's abit embarrasing on the company, I can understand you have to pay for the security clearance and ASIC bits and pieces...but MY GOD!!!! so i can understand where most of you are all coming from.

Also i'd like to point out after selection process and completing the 65 week training at CTC...This is what has been posted on the website under 'CTC FAQ''....

"Am I guaranteed a job?

These new programs with Jetstar provide a fantastic opportunity to enter the airline profession (LOL) and whilst Jetstar is committed to providing a career opportunity to as many applicants as possible the numbers are quite naturally limited.(So then why offer cadetships if you can't guarantee F/O positions) At the outset of the program it must be remembered that no cadet training program guarantees a job, since the individual trainee has to achieve the competency requirements of both CTC and Jetstar during the training. However, subject to that and there being no change to Jetstar’s recruitment plans, you will be offered a job with the airline on successful completion of the program"



I can understand where all of you are coming from.


Now...surely their has to be positives out of this whole cadetship!

That's why i'm asking for ANYONE that has done this cadetship what they think of it, Is it worth doing? and where do you sit now? are you flying the A320?
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