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Old 21st Mar 2013, 12:38
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I Observed a Forced Landing while sitting on the beach [Archive] - PPRuNe Forums

Another NSWAIR forced landing.....
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Old 10th Apr 2013, 14:43
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Quick update

Ok. So at the end of the "shark" season, 2013, Austraian Aerial Patrol has completed less than 50% of its scheduled flights. This may be due to the "crew chief" grounding any flights that he's not personally on. Or I may be a giant cynic.

By the way DS, if your ASIC is only valid foy YSSY why do you wear it at YWOL?

There is an enormous amount of community money poured into this ridiculous establishment, for the supposed protection of the public.
I can say from first hand experience that the observers who are supposedly responsible for spotting sharks, although we'll intentioned, were also first hand witnesses to the sinking of the Titanic. Most of them have to be pointed to the aircraft.

Every pilot wants to build hours, but it is professionally embarrassing to associate with an organisation that is so completely amateur.

The only slick part of this enterprise is the GM dealing with the press.

I love absolutely every second I spend in the air. I know I'm not the only one. But we simply cannot accept that "New pilots work for nothing".
Charity status or otherwise, the money is coming in, where is it going?
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Old 11th Apr 2013, 00:42
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50 50, It hasn't always been that way. When the AAP was separate from NSW Air, back in the late '90s-early 2000's, the AAP were regularly checked and assessed by AMSA and CASA. The SAR crew were better and the standards were much higher. This had a flow-on effect to the beach patrols, with the same crew often doing these sorties. They really did do some good work, finding missing vessels and aircraft; saving lives. I know because I personally found several of them, airdropped supplies and life-rafts and guided helicopters and ships by radio to conduct retrievals.

A whole bunch of hangers-on were attracted to the AAP during this period. Then HM bought WFTS and turned it into NSW Air. When the AMSA work was lost, NSW Air was used to support the AAP. With the role and relevance of the AAP now slipping into history, the good crews left and only the hangers-on remained. It is now a farce, completely pointless. Most of the good guys have gone onto bigger and better things. Some to the ADF, some to airlines or turbine GA, depending on their preferences.

Those left are the cheap, inexperienced or very young and very old. The crews have flown with known defects and probably still do. Half the sorties are cancelled and the guys running the show have NFI. The aircraft they operate are not even suitable for the role and there is no investment going into either company to develop and evolve. Over at the school the instructors are underpaid (like most schools I should add) and there seems to be no credible plan for capturing and securing future business. There is certainly no incentive for the instructors to stay. Personally, for anything more than a PPL, I would go elsewhere.

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Old 15th Jan 2014, 02:09
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That's a hell of a claim

The latest edit of the AAP Wikipedia entry 14/1/14 claims they are still available 24/7 365 days a year for emergencies!
If I go missing please call someone else.
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Old 15th Jan 2014, 06:20
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new CFI?

looks like they are advertising for a new CFI on AFAP. Interesting times ahead...
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Old 15th Jan 2014, 07:55
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Not that any of this 'expansion' would be based on the sad, recent demise of the Cleary AOC. Nah !! -now there's a job for a 'keen' journalist, if ever I saw one.
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Old 15th Jan 2014, 09:30
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That would be the shortest career ever as a CFI. They can't even pay the people they have. They advertised 5 weeks ago as well. Lack of applicants?
Please apply to the HR department? That would either be the GM, the marketing guy or the current CFI. There is nobody else.
Sounds like a big operation though doesn't it? Spin spin spin!
EDIT: I know how you people are with punctuation.
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Old 18th Mar 2014, 01:46
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Looks like they are advertising again for a new CFI on AFAP.
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Old 18th Mar 2014, 03:07
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Do they have a new owner? VH-BCY can you fill us in?
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Old 18th Mar 2014, 07:40
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Really 50 50, last time I checked, wiki was not where AMSA looked for SAR assistance. In fact, until very recently, they often called me.


New owner and the long-term incumbent is retiring, or at least trying to. I think there are big changes afoot, and in my opinion that can only be a good thing.
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Old 18th Mar 2014, 10:42
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Not yet but soon.
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