Greens' pledge to shut Essendon Airport
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Go and write to Tim Long and tell him how much of an idiot he actually is. [email protected]
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I didn't think to check before, but Essendon is listed in the Airports Regulations and therefore its use and sale is covered by the Airports Act, which includes the following requirement;
s(11) (c) the lease must provide for access by interstate and/or international air transport;.
So presumably any change of use would have to be done by amendment to the Act and a change of lessee. That's not to say that closing Essendon or any other listed airport is impossible, but it's a lot harder than the 'owners' sticking a housing development application in, because they're really just tenants on Crown land that is proscribed by legislation as being for an airport.
If (God forbid) the Watermelon Party ever run the country in their own right I suppose it could happen, but if that happens we'll probably all be living in caves anway. My hope is that the general population will be so sick of their crap by the next election that they'll dissappear back into the swamp they crawled out of.
s(11) (c) the lease must provide for access by interstate and/or international air transport;.
So presumably any change of use would have to be done by amendment to the Act and a change of lessee. That's not to say that closing Essendon or any other listed airport is impossible, but it's a lot harder than the 'owners' sticking a housing development application in, because they're really just tenants on Crown land that is proscribed by legislation as being for an airport.
If (God forbid) the Watermelon Party ever run the country in their own right I suppose it could happen, but if that happens we'll probably all be living in caves anway. My hope is that the general population will be so sick of their crap by the next election that they'll dissappear back into the swamp they crawled out of.
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They do and they don't.
Sure, the government of the day can bend or amend legislation to suit themselves, but they have to follow the procecdure as set out in the Act, presumably sell the land off (unless the Commonwealth's going to get into housing estates), the private buyer would then have to get local government approval for development etc. It's not North Korea (or Queensland in the 1980s
) where the government can do whatever the hell they like.
If there were a concerted push from Canberra to get rid of an airport it could probably happen, but it's not the sort of thing that can be done on a whim by the local MP next week, even if he's a tree hugger. What is important is for the local flying community to keep making a noise about how Essendon is vital, so Canberra doesn't get any funny ideas. That seems to be happening
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Sure, the government of the day can bend or amend legislation to suit themselves, but they have to follow the procecdure as set out in the Act, presumably sell the land off (unless the Commonwealth's going to get into housing estates), the private buyer would then have to get local government approval for development etc. It's not North Korea (or Queensland in the 1980s
) where the government can do whatever the hell they like. If there were a concerted push from Canberra to get rid of an airport it could probably happen, but it's not the sort of thing that can be done on a whim by the local MP next week, even if he's a tree hugger. What is important is for the local flying community to keep making a noise about how Essendon is vital, so Canberra doesn't get any funny ideas. That seems to be happening
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When the watermelon party decide to have it closed, they will grab Julia by the short and curlies, give a little twist and ask if she still wants her job.
Legislation would be enacted in a very short record period, if its not already drafted.
Legislation would be enacted in a very short record period, if its not already drafted.
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I wouldn't worry about it.... it's not going to happen, unless another similar commercial (not training) airport is built.
Considering our current 44bn and climbing national debt, soon to follow state, there isn't the cash ther to do it.
I live about 5 min drive from EN..... pretty much right on final for 35
The only noise thats ever really annoying is POLAIR overhead at <400 ft everyday..... oh and the guy who's flying the twin SSE every morning approx 7:25 - 7:35 that's things loud! like an old magna with a cheap muffler
Considering our current 44bn and climbing national debt, soon to follow state, there isn't the cash ther to do it.
I live about 5 min drive from EN..... pretty much right on final for 35
The only noise thats ever really annoying is POLAIR overhead at <400 ft everyday..... oh and the guy who's flying the twin SSE every morning approx 7:25 - 7:35 that's things loud! like an old magna with a cheap muffler
Aviation Academy at Essendon?
Would love to see Essendon get this....still being decided apparently.
Avalon misses out on $40m facility, claims Koch - Local News - Geelong, VIC, Australia
Avalon misses out on $40m facility, claims Koch - Local News - Geelong, VIC, Australia
Avalon misses out on $40m facility, claims Koch
A LEAKED treasury memo reveals Avalon has missed out on the $40 million state Aviation Training Academy, a leading local Liberal says.
Avalon Airport was bidding for the academy against Tullamarine and Essendon airports, but Liberal MLA David Koch yesterday said a leak from within government said the Geelong facility had missed out.
The school is to be Victoria's first aviation engineering academy, drawing 800 students at levels from traineeships to PhDs.
"I have been reliably informed the Government has turned its back on Avalon getting the Aviation Training Academy at this stage," Mr Koch said.
"There have been a series leaks out of the treasurer's office. It was brought to my attention that a memo leaked from the treasurer's expenditure review committee has put any announcements on hold at this stage," Mr Koch said.
"It's unlikely any announcements will be made before the election. It will be held over until after the election. Melbourne Airport, I was advised, would be favoured in front of Avalon."
Mr Koch said the Government had dropped the ball for Geelong.
"On the back of the Tiger launch this week it was disappointing to learn that the Government had failed to capitalise on this great facility," he said.
Regional Development Minister Jacinta Allan told the Advertiser the location was still being considered.
G21 lobby group head Elaine Carbines said it would be hugely disappointing if Avalon did not win the academy. "This region has got behind Avalon Airport and the Academy," Ms Carbines said.
Linfox's Avalon Airport manager Justin Giddings said the city had put a huge effort into the application.
"We are definitely not giving up. We still think is the best spot to put the academy. Tullamarine doesn't have a flexibility to provide the range of services. Avalon has got the greatest chance for expansion in Victoria and probably in Australia," he said.
Labor Lara MP John Eren said his party had been the strongest supporter of Avalon
"The Aviation Academy is still being decided," he said.
A LEAKED treasury memo reveals Avalon has missed out on the $40 million state Aviation Training Academy, a leading local Liberal says.
Avalon Airport was bidding for the academy against Tullamarine and Essendon airports, but Liberal MLA David Koch yesterday said a leak from within government said the Geelong facility had missed out.
The school is to be Victoria's first aviation engineering academy, drawing 800 students at levels from traineeships to PhDs.
"I have been reliably informed the Government has turned its back on Avalon getting the Aviation Training Academy at this stage," Mr Koch said.
"There have been a series leaks out of the treasurer's office. It was brought to my attention that a memo leaked from the treasurer's expenditure review committee has put any announcements on hold at this stage," Mr Koch said.
"It's unlikely any announcements will be made before the election. It will be held over until after the election. Melbourne Airport, I was advised, would be favoured in front of Avalon."
Mr Koch said the Government had dropped the ball for Geelong.
"On the back of the Tiger launch this week it was disappointing to learn that the Government had failed to capitalise on this great facility," he said.
Regional Development Minister Jacinta Allan told the Advertiser the location was still being considered.
G21 lobby group head Elaine Carbines said it would be hugely disappointing if Avalon did not win the academy. "This region has got behind Avalon Airport and the Academy," Ms Carbines said.
Linfox's Avalon Airport manager Justin Giddings said the city had put a huge effort into the application.
"We are definitely not giving up. We still think is the best spot to put the academy. Tullamarine doesn't have a flexibility to provide the range of services. Avalon has got the greatest chance for expansion in Victoria and probably in Australia," he said.
Labor Lara MP John Eren said his party had been the strongest supporter of Avalon
"The Aviation Academy is still being decided," he said.
...Don't think it's going anywhere!
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Interesting FB "it is still there" but for how long. Here's something to ponder over.
The Gov't allocated $150K to carry out a study for the possible development and location of a new Geelong Airport with the miinister releasing his finding early December 2011, and surprise. surprise they are going to spend many millions develop Avalon East, you know the temporary strip used for the airshow which goes under water following heavy rain.
Geelong Airport at Grovedale closed down on 31/12/11, with Geelong Flying School having to relocate to a NSW border town. This alone is a farce as here we have the Geelong region with a population of around 300K without a GA flying school. RAA is catered for at Barwon Heads, and Lethbridge 37kms from Geelong, is to be given an upgrade with sealed runways.
Back to Essendon. A few months back it was mentioned by an operator from Essendon that he has been advised that Mr Fox was planning to shorten the main runway to 1000m in April/May 2012. which would cause problems for the private jet operaotrs based there who require a safe 1200m.
Will they go to Avalon along with the other Essendon aviation industries, with Essendon being used by rotary only.
Another wisper, the SAS have been conducting some activities at Point Cook, with the suggestion they may be relocating a training facility to the base. If this happens it could see all private operations being banned or transfered to Avalon East.
Another wisper, the location for the aviation training facility has still not been allocated by the Government, and the strong rumor is that it will also be located at Avalon/Avalon East and tied in with the Gordon TAFE in Geelong. We may see the RMIT operation transfered.
Oh,tobz92_ymen, Mr Fox operates both and will benefit enormously with the closure of Essendon with land value along with govt financing heavily the development of Avalon East.
Just somethiing to ponder over but it could stack up and we unfortunately see the end of Essendon as a GA facility, while aviation in the Geelong region gets a kick in the guts by not developing Barwon Heads, Torquay or a greenfield site in closer proximity to Geelong.
The Gov't allocated $150K to carry out a study for the possible development and location of a new Geelong Airport with the miinister releasing his finding early December 2011, and surprise. surprise they are going to spend many millions develop Avalon East, you know the temporary strip used for the airshow which goes under water following heavy rain.
Geelong Airport at Grovedale closed down on 31/12/11, with Geelong Flying School having to relocate to a NSW border town. This alone is a farce as here we have the Geelong region with a population of around 300K without a GA flying school. RAA is catered for at Barwon Heads, and Lethbridge 37kms from Geelong, is to be given an upgrade with sealed runways.
Back to Essendon. A few months back it was mentioned by an operator from Essendon that he has been advised that Mr Fox was planning to shorten the main runway to 1000m in April/May 2012. which would cause problems for the private jet operaotrs based there who require a safe 1200m.
Will they go to Avalon along with the other Essendon aviation industries, with Essendon being used by rotary only.
Another wisper, the SAS have been conducting some activities at Point Cook, with the suggestion they may be relocating a training facility to the base. If this happens it could see all private operations being banned or transfered to Avalon East.
Another wisper, the location for the aviation training facility has still not been allocated by the Government, and the strong rumor is that it will also be located at Avalon/Avalon East and tied in with the Gordon TAFE in Geelong. We may see the RMIT operation transfered.
Oh,tobz92_ymen, Mr Fox operates both and will benefit enormously with the closure of Essendon with land value along with govt financing heavily the development of Avalon East.
Just somethiing to ponder over but it could stack up and we unfortunately see the end of Essendon as a GA facility, while aviation in the Geelong region gets a kick in the guts by not developing Barwon Heads, Torquay or a greenfield site in closer proximity to Geelong.
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Does not Mr Fox operate a corporate jet which is based at Essendon?
Does he not live in a desirable suburb of Melbourne that is closer to Essendon than Geelong?
Has not Mr Fox given undertakings that Essendon will continue to operate as an airport?
I suggest that the only way it will be closed is by political fiat and that is unlikely with the present Victorian government.
Does he not live in a desirable suburb of Melbourne that is closer to Essendon than Geelong?
Has not Mr Fox given undertakings that Essendon will continue to operate as an airport?
I suggest that the only way it will be closed is by political fiat and that is unlikely with the present Victorian government.
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Could you get the airport heritage listed??
Once an application for heritage listing has begun I believe the area cannot be altered or developed without going through signifcantly more hurdles.
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The 1920s period saw the great pioneering aviation flights of Sir Charles Kingsford Smith who visited the airport on several occasions. In August 1926, 60,000 people swarmed across the grassy fields of Essendon Airport upon the arrival of aviation pioneer Alan Cobham when he landed his de Havilland DH.50 floatplane, flown from England to Australia. The airport was extended with additional land during the 1930s. The grass was finally upgraded to concrete tarmac in 1946.
Some notable arrivals at the airport include:
1956 - Olympics and arrival of Queen Elizabeth II. Airport staff directed 206 international flights down safely during one week at Essendon airport.
1964 - The Beatles, upon arrival, waved to thousands of teenagers from the viewing deck of Essendon Airport's main terminal building.
1967 - United States President Lyndon B. Johnson for the funeral of Prime Minister Harold Holt. Air Force One landed at Essendon Airport on 22 December 1967 then flew empty to Tullamarine as its weight when refuelled was too heavy for Essendon's tarmac.
1973 - Sir Robert Helpmann co-directed with Rudolph Nureyev, the Australian Ballet film of Don Quixote in F hangar.
1987 - Kylie Minogue films her first ever music video for her debut single Locomotion here.
1956 - Olympics and arrival of Queen Elizabeth II. Airport staff directed 206 international flights down safely during one week at Essendon airport.
1964 - The Beatles, upon arrival, waved to thousands of teenagers from the viewing deck of Essendon Airport's main terminal building.
1967 - United States President Lyndon B. Johnson for the funeral of Prime Minister Harold Holt. Air Force One landed at Essendon Airport on 22 December 1967 then flew empty to Tullamarine as its weight when refuelled was too heavy for Essendon's tarmac.
1973 - Sir Robert Helpmann co-directed with Rudolph Nureyev, the Australian Ballet film of Don Quixote in F hangar.
1987 - Kylie Minogue films her first ever music video for her debut single Locomotion here.
Once an application for heritage listing has begun I believe the area cannot be altered or developed without going through signifcantly more hurdles.
Dog
Considering Tullamarine did not exist as an airport in 1967 it would have been an interesting arrival for Airforce One although I'm sure the old Bulla Servo would have been happy with the fuelling contract!