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Old 20th Jun 2010, 08:55
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WA mining bosses' flight missing

Check out this on yahoo.com.au

Surprised no mention anywhere else.
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Sorry all,
No offence intended. I misread the original post and had no idea an aeroplane was missing.

Original post below.

Hoping for the best,

FRQ CB

Link? I've searched but - nothing.

Looking forward to a good tanty,

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WA mining bosses' flight missing - The West Australian
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What were they doing all on the one aircraft?
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Assuming it wasn't going to crash at a guess. What was the aircraft type?
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What were they doing all on the one aircraft?

Compressor stall are you kidding? Are this crew heads of state or royalty?

Cost cutting is a bitch.


edit for foot in mouth

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Old 20th Jun 2010, 21:13
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main thread

looks like main thread developing over here -> http://www.pprune.org/african-aviati...de-mbalam.html
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More detail in the African Aviation threads

http://www.pprune.org/african-aviati...de-mbalam.html
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Compressor stall are you kidding? You think this crew are heads of state or royalty?
No you will find that certain people are not allowed to fly together. Usually the chairman and the CEO don't.
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I wonder if this will bite Rudd?

Due to the proposed 40% super profits tax the mining magnates were in Africa seeking a haven where their investment would be welcomed instead of taxed to oblivion.

Keven 'o seven, gone in ee-leven
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Thank you neville_nobody.

Iron Bar - no they are not royalty but the entire board of directors on a chartered flight in Africa on an African aircraft? This is a company of huge wealth and if I was a shareholder I would not want this to be the case for this (assumed) unfortunate eventuality.

I would even baulk at them all being on Talbot's personal jet together.

Green Goblin - I struggle to see the relevance - Sundance have been over there for quite some time, nothing to do with the super profits.
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Stallie mate,

Wise words indeed.

I cant imagine what they thought they were doing.

Not only putting ALL their eggs in one basket but betting the company on the skills and ability of a single pilot?

These guys are respected risk takers in the mining business but their duty of care and corporate governance is looking a bit tatty right now.

These sort of events can mortally wound these companies, for which the shareholders will not be happy.
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Interestingly, though, having done a moderate amount of FIFO consultancy work in the past in regard to contracts, audits and the like, I noted that a significant minority of the mining folk with whom I came in contact had a somewhat cavalier attitude to FIFO safety considerations ... not so much reckless as ignorant .. and not all that interested in learning about the lower level detail which was the stuff likely to kill them or their employees.

Caveats -

(a) my experience was some years ago so the situation may have changed somewhat in the intervening period

(b) not all mining folk were afflicted - during one audit my group did I detected a very significant aircraft performance scheduling error which impacted the bulk of the flying program. When I briefed the commissioning mining executive by phone his response was along the lines of "forget the audit for the moment and go fix the problem"
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Cirrus driver

It was a CASA 212 but not sure if 100 or 200
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Compressor Stall, etal

Fair enough, I stand corrected. On reflection it does seem somewhat rash.
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Green Goblin - I struggle to see the relevance - Sundance have been over there for quite some time, nothing to do with the super profits.
Tongue in cheek bud

Another senseless tragedy no doubt in a region where safety can be something that is sought rather than attained.
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BHP we used to seperate the bosses between two aircraft.
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BHP we used to seperate the bosses between two aircraft.

.. that sounds like a sensible corporate risk management outcome.
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Green goblin. I was just about to say that although I fell for your sarcsm, I reckoned someone in Canberra would draw the same conclusion. Then I see just reported that Wilson Tuckey has already.

if it was an hour long flight, what would the cost of an extra flight to split the load? 2 hours of (African) C212 time at say Usd$2000 an hour?

$4 grand ain't that much to pay for the short term future of the company.

Irrespective of the outcome of this search, I am sure that this event will have repercussions around the business world.
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In my limited experience regarding such matters, entire Boards or key members of Organisations are banned/discouraged from flying together.
Let's hope for a happy outcome in this instance, however unlikely that may be.
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