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CASA can declare the change a total success with no traffic delayed due to the new procedures.....
RMK RF00.0/000.0
CASA can declare the change a total success with no traffic delayed due to the new procedures.....
Archer Tower
Been listening to a live feed, and they're doing a great job 
Was hoping for some IFR departures to hear how they were going, but haven't heard any today yet ... WX up there must be alot better than down here!
Was hoping for some IFR departures to hear how they were going, but haven't heard any today yet ... WX up there must be alot better than down here!
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Hey Mav........how long before we get used to calling it it Sunny Tower?
I believe the CASA folk are in attendance at YBAF and monitoring the transition, probably elsewhere too. From what I hear its a 30 day amnisty on confused pilots and ATC's.....which is a good idea.
I know one PPRUNER is IFRing out to YMOR this arv, so it will be interesting to see how he finds the new arrangement.
J
I believe the CASA folk are in attendance at YBAF and monitoring the transition, probably elsewhere too. From what I hear its a 30 day amnisty on confused pilots and ATC's.....which is a good idea.
I know one PPRUNER is IFRing out to YMOR this arv, so it will be interesting to see how he finds the new arrangement.
J
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It was a complete mess at Bankstown, the new SID of 29 is just stupid in high performance aircraft, but well done to the guys on ground freq, busy times ahead for them.
The delays with IFR departures and arrivals are going to cost a lot of time in the run up bays.
A real step backwards for IFR at these airports.
The delays with IFR departures and arrivals are going to cost a lot of time in the run up bays.
A real step backwards for IFR at these airports.
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'Maintain 1500 till heading 290'
the old SID was the same heading and altitude, (3000' 290) and was never a problem under the old system, why is there this new restriction?
the old SID was the same heading and altitude, (3000' 290) and was never a problem under the old system, why is there this new restriction?
'Maintain 1500 till heading 290'
They'll be able to stop saying it on 1 July, when the BK 4 Departure comes into effect - because it is stipulated on the departure plate.
BTW - isn't it departing off runway 11 where this requirement comes into play? ... (Looks suspiciously like the missed approach on the 11C RNAV approach.)
Hey, FJ44 - I wasn't flying and couldn't listen in on BK twr frequency today. Who were IFR departures making their departure call to (Tower or Departures?), at what stage of the SID were they making it, and in what format (full procedural style, as required by AIP, or the abbreviated 'radar environment' style of departure report)? Just curious, coz I haven't had to do it myself yet (and none of the docs or training materials explain this
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Ted
BTW - isn't it departing off runway 11 where this requirement comes into play? ... (Looks suspiciously like the missed approach on the 11C RNAV approach.)
Hey, FJ44 - I wasn't flying and couldn't listen in on BK twr frequency today. Who were IFR departures making their departure call to (Tower or Departures?), at what stage of the SID were they making it, and in what format (full procedural style, as required by AIP, or the abbreviated 'radar environment' style of departure report)? Just curious, coz I haven't had to do it myself yet (and none of the docs or training materials explain this
) ...Ted
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My appologies, of course it the 11 SID I'm talking about.
Departure report...
I've not seen or read any guideance on that either and must say the departure ahead of me didn't make one and either did I, just reported passing 2000' and got passed to departures.
Departure report...
I've not seen or read any guideance on that either and must say the departure ahead of me didn't make one and either did I, just reported passing 2000' and got passed to departures.
the departure ahead of me didn't make one and either did I, just reported passing 2000' and got passed to departures
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Full procedural, I imagine, but I heard about 4 or 5 variations on it today. I don't think the tower guys particularly care, but the AIP only offers one option for procedural control zones.
What about if the wind is from the South and you conduct the SID of 29? "Track 291 deg, at 500ft turn left heading 290" A literal interpretation might get nasty with any more than 2 degrees of drift.
What about if the wind is from the South and you conduct the SID of 29? "Track 291 deg, at 500ft turn left heading 290" A literal interpretation might get nasty with any more than 2 degrees of drift.
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An old French proverb says that the weather on June 3rd determines the weather for the rest of the month.
So how was it in Oz today?
Le temps qu'il fait le 3 juin, sera le temps de tout le mois