ASIC/AVID background checks

[RNQ]

Hi, does anyone know what ASIO's security assessment involves? what records will they bring up, (mental health, etc)

[VH-XXX]

Surely you mean ASIC....

Criminal record would be the only thing to worry about, convictions etc.

Mental health is a private matter between you and your healthcare professional unless you were convicted in some mental way say like the guy that tried to hijack a Qantas jet because he was skitso.


What are you worried about, us bush lawyers and Mr Snorkell can probably help?

[GPS Guru]

ASIO will know everything about you. They also only want you to discuss your application with your family and nobody else so broadcasting it on PPRUNE won't help your aspirations.

[YPJT]

All will be answered here
I believe RNQ is asking about ASIO checks associated with his ASIC application, not joining the spook outfit.

[Pinky the pilot]

I have on occasion wondered about the background security checks done on those who apply for an ASIC.

After all, sometime in the recent past were`nt some baggage handlers at a certain airport eventually discovered to have criminal records, with some actually having served time in gaol? And at the time they all　held valid ASICs?

Anyone know the actual details?

[VH-XXX]

RNQ you must have something to hide in your deep dark history! Just pay up and wait by your letterbox; it will either turn up or it won't, depending on what you did wrong...

[Worrals in the wilds]

Anyone know the actual details?

Not first hand and it was a while ago, but only certain types of criminal convictions preclude a person from holding an ASIC. Their convictions may not have fallen under that umbrella. There are a number of ASIC holders with 'minor' convictions for theft, assault etc. YJPT's link has the list of offences.

I have a vague recollection of the incident you mention, and that there were some Sydney baggies given ASICs when they shouldn't have been but I can't remember the gory details. It was around the time of the Wheeler Report fallout.

As for the ASIO assessment, from the Aviation Transport Security Regulations (online at austlii):
REG 6.31

Persons the subject of qualified security assessments

(1) This regulation applies if a security assessment of a person is a qualified security assessment.
(2) If the Secretary is satisfied that the holding of an ASIC by the person would not constitute a threat to aviation security, the Secretary must give the issuing body a written notice stating that an ASIC may be issued because the person is not a threat to aviation security.
(3) If the Secretary is satisfied that the holding of an ASIC by the person would constitute a threat to aviation security the Secretary must give the issuing body a written direction not to issue the ASIC to the person.
(4) The Secretary must give the person a notice stating that the Secretary has given the issuing body a notice under subregulation (2) or a direction under subregulation (3).
(5) An issuing body must not issue an ASIC to a person in contravention of a direction under subregulation (3).
Penalty: 20 penalty units.
(6) In this regulation:
" qualified security assessment " has the same meaning as in Part IV of the Australian Security Intelligence Organisation Act 1979 .
Note For a person's notification and review rights in relation to a security assessment -- see the Australian Security Intelligence Organisation Act 1979 , section 38.

Spook recroot is at ASIO Careers - Asio Careers - Intelligence Officer. Make sure you keep us posted on every detail, every step of the way. Remember to wear a white dinner jacket to the interview and tell 'em you like vodka martinis .

[Pinky the pilot]

Remember to wear a white dinner jacket to the interview and tell 'em you like vodka martinis

And that your favourite sidearm is a Walther PPK.

It certainly is`nt mine so I would`nt bother applying.

[Bell_Flyer]

Good question, RNQ.

The checks are very, very stringent especially if you are a pilot wanting to fly around Australia with family and friends, say like if you want to visit Birdsville or Thargomindah or Lightning Ridge - make sure you have an ASIC handy.

However, there's good news, the requirements are looser if you are a convicted criminal or part of a terrorist organisation wanting to work at a Port or Airport.

Part of the Office of Transport Security report is here:

CONVICTED criminals who pose a terrorist or organised crime risk are free to work on Australia's ports due to gaping holes in the nation's maritime security, according to a report commissioned by the Federal Government.

The damning Office of Transport Security report reveals the central plank of Australia's post-September 11 waterfront security scheme has failed to meet its core goal - to keep criminals convicted of terrorism-related offences away from maritime sites.

The report, obtained under freedom of information laws, will embarrass the Rudd Government as it is the latest in a string of confidential documents that have been sent to at least two cabinet ministers, Anthony Albanese and Brendan O'Connor, exposing the parlous state of national infrastructure and transport security.

The full article is here:

terrorist threat Australian ports

Here's one from The Age.

Criminals infiltrate docks, airports

Hope this helps.

[solowflyer]

Sorry to hijack the thread but if I hold a ASIC card do I need to hold a AVID?

[Pinky the pilot]

if I hold a ASIC card do I need to hold a AVID?

No. You do not.

[YPJT]

soloflyer, The AVID is CASA's minimum security requirement to be able to fly as PIC. It isn't much use these days as more and more airports are getting RPT services and therefore become designated as being "Security Controlled" which requires an ASIC.

I'm stall waiting for the b@stards from OTS to deliver on the white paper promise of full two year validity and transferability of the security clearance for an ASIC. They pulled out all stops to change the regs and clear corkscrews and knitting needles but we are still being right royally rogered. I guess winos and grannys have more clout than pilots.