Five mile final
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If some here are of the opinion that some "Big" aeroplane pilots barge into the CCT via a SI, without consideration of others in the CCT, that sounds like a whole other issue. Ring their CP and complain.
Talking of joining circuit, I was taught the end of the runway is where you join downwind, some call joining extended downwind, some call downwind 4 miles out. While were at it how far out is too far for downwind? I'd say anymore than one mile would be excess even in a big machine?
I think the idea of calling a wide, extended, or whatever downwind is to provide more situational awareness about where you are, not to try and make yourself part of the circuit traffic. If you call "on a four mile downwind", you've decided that a position report is appropriate for some reason (due other traffic), you're advising that you're aligned with the downwind leg and you're about 4 miles out, you do this to give people useful information, not to try and assert yourself over someone joining via a 5 mile final or to get an aircraft on the ground to wait for you.
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>5,700kg
Green Goblin,
Not so GG. CAO 82.3 refers to low-cap RPT operations. I'm guessing you boys with freight in the back aren't RPT. There are also a few other operators flying metro's under charter and not scheduled services.
In this case, does the 3nm and 1nm calls apply even though the aircraft is above 5,700?
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For a multi crew commuter category aircraft and above a 15 mile call and established at 5nm is required.
In this case, does the 3nm and 1nm calls apply even though the aircraft is above 5,700?
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Originally Posted by Super Cecil
I agree Areocat but what I'm getting at here is aircraft just calling downwind and being 4 miles out.
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You were correct 777 in regards to a <5700 typical light aircraft with the established by 5 broadcast at 3nm and 1nm.
While were at it how far out is too far for downwind? I'd say anymore than one mile would be excess even in a big machine?
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Originally Posted by Super Cecil
While were at it how far out is too far for downwind? I'd say anymore than one mile would be excess even in a big machine?
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IMHO 5 mile finals are great, providing you are not distracted with your final checks and join the GU Club (Guts Up).
Airline jockeys have always shown professionalism and good airmanship in my 35 plus yrs of commercial flying. As has the majority of other well TRAINED and well disciplined pilots.
Airline jockeys have always shown professionalism and good airmanship in my 35 plus yrs of commercial flying. As has the majority of other well TRAINED and well disciplined pilots.