Northern Territory Aeromed Contract
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Northern Territory Aeromed Contract
Well it's been some time since I last got involved with this forum but I reckon this thread is gonna kick off some very heated debate.....so lets begin.
CAREFLIGHT HAS INTERIM CONTRACT FOR NT AEROMED.
So this creates some questions:
1. What fixed wing (multi-engine turboprop) do they operate and can they offer by 1 July 10?
2. How many crews can they gather (including medical staff) by the same date?
3. What infrastructure do they have in Darwin?
4. ???? keep going 5. 6. 7.....
I'm not picking on Careflight itself, though it appears to be an enormous effort to accomplish bearing in mind the already incumbent contractor and it's infrastructure and equipment and the expertise of the RFDS. What's the story? Me thinks the NT government has made a booboo!!!
CAREFLIGHT HAS INTERIM CONTRACT FOR NT AEROMED.
So this creates some questions:
1. What fixed wing (multi-engine turboprop) do they operate and can they offer by 1 July 10?
2. How many crews can they gather (including medical staff) by the same date?
3. What infrastructure do they have in Darwin?
4. ???? keep going 5. 6. 7.....
I'm not picking on Careflight itself, though it appears to be an enormous effort to accomplish bearing in mind the already incumbent contractor and it's infrastructure and equipment and the expertise of the RFDS. What's the story? Me thinks the NT government has made a booboo!!!
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I think the pearl contract expires in june.
Having said that...
What skid said!
Aren't the aircraft requirements quite strict as well, (age and TTIS)?
Does the PC12 get a look in or is it Multi engine only?
Having said that...
What skid said!
Aren't the aircraft requirements quite strict as well, (age and TTIS)?
Does the PC12 get a look in or is it Multi engine only?
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CAREFLIGHT HAS INTERIM CONTRACT FOR NT AEROMED.
Does the PC12 get a look in or is it Multi engine only?
). However the NT Police airwing now operate two, so may get a look in.
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Are you sure about that S8? Didn't think Careflight guys were that poorly remunerated...
Or are they going to use contract aircraft?
Or are they going to use contract aircraft?
Figure of $60k for Pelair/Careflight B200 pilots at Essendon, can't see the NT operation paying much better? Maybe wrong, but Skywest and Pearl always paid pretty well on that contract.
Also Darwin isn't the cheapest place to live with high power prices and a reasonable unit in the $450 a week mark.
The race to the bottom continues.
Also Darwin isn't the cheapest place to live with high power prices and a reasonable unit in the $450 a week mark.
The race to the bottom continues.
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In my day as an NTAMS pilot, with Skywest Avn before Pearl purchased Skywest, pilots were paid a loading for rmote living, and the medical staff were supplied by the health department, not Skywest.
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Pearl NTAMS in 2008:
Applicants must meet the following minimum requirements:
• 2500 total aeronautical experience
• 2000 command hours
• 500 multi engine command hours
• 300 turbine command hours
• Australian Airline Transport Pilot Licence
• 3 renewal Instrument Ratings
Candidates with B200 endorsement would be advantageous
base annual salary $65,000 gross
Pilot Availability & Contactibility Allowance of $2345.46 per annum
Jeppesen Document Allowance of $269.62 per annum.
Area Allowance of $7,680.40 per annum
NTAMS Allowance of $10,000 per annum
This was pre-the current EBA.
Which branch of Careflight are we talking about -there is more than one. I was not aware Careflight had an AoC for B200?
Applicants must meet the following minimum requirements:
• 2500 total aeronautical experience
• 2000 command hours
• 500 multi engine command hours
• 300 turbine command hours
• Australian Airline Transport Pilot Licence
• 3 renewal Instrument Ratings
Candidates with B200 endorsement would be advantageous
base annual salary $65,000 gross
Pilot Availability & Contactibility Allowance of $2345.46 per annum
Jeppesen Document Allowance of $269.62 per annum.
Area Allowance of $7,680.40 per annum
NTAMS Allowance of $10,000 per annum
This was pre-the current EBA.
Which branch of Careflight are we talking about -there is more than one. I was not aware Careflight had an AoC for B200?
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Figure of $60k for Pelair/Careflight B200 pilots at Essendon
It is my understanding that Careflight do not have a fixed wing AOC in their own right, so who actually has the NTAMS contract?
Yeah, AOCs are what I've been curious about lately. Can anyone confirm who (besides Pearl) has King Air on their AOC? This is assuming of course, that King Air aircraft are ultimately used for this work...
Maybe need to ask who (besides RFDS) has PC12 on an AOC.
Are the Police PC12s technically on private operations? And if not, what AOC do they fly under?
Maybe need to ask who (besides RFDS) has PC12 on an AOC.
Are the Police PC12s technically on private operations? And if not, what AOC do they fly under?
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Polair was a PVT / AWK OP when I was in it.......
Careflight Qld has a CHTR/AWK AoC for Lear 35 / 45, domestic & International, but not B200 or PC12.
Careflight Medical Services also charters aircraft from other operators like Pelair to conduct its retrievals.
I don't know that any of the Careflight operations in Oz has the necessary experience for a primary Aeromed service like NTAMS.... but I've been wrong before.
Careflight Qld has a CHTR/AWK AoC for Lear 35 / 45, domestic & International, but not B200 or PC12.
Careflight Medical Services also charters aircraft from other operators like Pelair to conduct its retrievals.
I don't know that any of the Careflight operations in Oz has the necessary experience for a primary Aeromed service like NTAMS.... but I've been wrong before.
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There is allot of truth in what blueskymine has said 
The most likely out come is that the winner of this will be Pel air or Care flight as the tender requires the new operator to supply fixed wing/rotary wing as well as nurses(from what I've heard) and there are few operators around with the capacity to fund or supply what NTAMS are asking for. The following link shows small details of the tender and has a long list of tenderers.
Tenders Online - Northern Territory Government
the winner of the tender is expected to be announced in June/July and are expected to pick up the work by January 2011. it is possible that the pearl aviation contract will be extended but at the moment allot seems to be a mystery
Althought none of this seems to be the fault of pearl aviation the labor government seems to be quick to blame them for NTAMS problems, the NT Health minister Kon Vatskalis has been heard in many interviews claiming that pearl aviation will not be Keeping the contract....... but how many times have labor ever told the truth?
The biggest problem I see (from the outside looking in) is NTAMS want a 5 star service, but can't afford to pay for it.
Tenders Online - Northern Territory Government
the winner of the tender is expected to be announced in June/July and are expected to pick up the work by January 2011. it is possible that the pearl aviation contract will be extended but at the moment allot seems to be a mystery
Althought none of this seems to be the fault of pearl aviation the labor government seems to be quick to blame them for NTAMS problems, the NT Health minister Kon Vatskalis has been heard in many interviews claiming that pearl aviation will not be Keeping the contract....... but how many times have labor ever told the truth?
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How will these effect Pearls B200 flight crew, will they be offered jobs with new operator or is there enough jobs in Pearls charter fleet (King air and Metro) or is it a totally different branch of the company
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Tender No: D09-0571
Agency: Department of Health and Families
Directorate: Acute Care Services
Title: Darwin, Katherine and Gove - Provision of Aero Medical Services in the Top End of the NT for a Period of 60 Months - Inspection on 28/01/2010 at 09:30
Tenders Close: 31-Mar-2010 02:00 PM CST (Australian Central Standard Time)
Agency: Department of Health and Families
Directorate: Acute Care Services
Title: Darwin, Katherine and Gove - Provision of Aero Medical Services in the Top End of the NT for a Period of 60 Months - Inspection on 28/01/2010 at 09:30
Tenders Close: 31-Mar-2010 02:00 PM CST (Australian Central Standard Time)
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Hey HH, How are things at Hughes Pt?
It is an interim contract (6 months) that has been awarded to Careflight NSW due it being nigh impossible that anyone bar Pearl could be ready to start on the 1st July when the current Ntams deal ends.
Sooo........Careflight should be running the show from 1st July to 31st December. Who is going to be doing the fixed-wing? I'll throw that ball back into court.
It is an interim contract (6 months) that has been awarded to Careflight NSW due it being nigh impossible that anyone bar Pearl could be ready to start on the 1st July when the current Ntams deal ends.
Sooo........Careflight should be running the show from 1st July to 31st December. Who is going to be doing the fixed-wing? I'll throw that ball back into court.
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just to be clear, pearl will be operating there fleet of B200 till (at least)January 2011. then new operator will be annoced in July 2010 if there is a suitable candidate for Ntams high expectations! it is the bidding process that closes 31 of march. although as in the past it has been extended to be retended.............
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Tendering Companies
Found this list of tenderers from the NT Gov. website. Certainly raised my eyebrows........
Australian Helicopters
Careflight(Nsw) Limited
None
John Armstrong Family Trust
Chartair
Jedi Inc
Air Frontier
Pearl Aviation
Royal Flying Doctor Service of Australia Central Operations Incorporated
Inchyra Holdings Pty Ltd
Cook Medical
Pilatus Australia Pty Ltd
Jayrow Helicopters
savannah aviation
Pel-Air Aviation Pty Ltd
Ausmedivac
Aspen Medical
RFDS Western Operations
Rfdsno
gomez aviation
Gama Aviation Ltd
GSAS
Cobham Aviation Services Australia
St John Ambulance Aust (Nt) Inc
Airborne Solutions
Heliwest
Helicopters Abroad
Skytrans
Medic Oncall
Aviat Consulting Pty Limited
AMSA
ragwing aviation
pacific helicopters
Hawker Pacific
31C0
Avion Pacific
Corporate Aircraft Charter
Slingair
Royal Flying Doctor Service Of Australia (South Eastern Section)
Vincent Aviation
Andrew Mcwatters
Health Services Australia
Dept of Justice
Chc Helicopters (Australia)
Becton Dickinson Pty Ltd
The Helicopter Service Australia
MedSat Technologies Pty Ltd
MedSat
Grabbe Covey Helicopters Pty Ltd
cqsatnet
Cobham Aviation Services Australia
International Sos
Mobile Aircraft Maint
AEA Aerospace
Av8 Aviation
Aeronautical Engineers Australia
Total Aerospace Solutions Pty Ltd
Execujet Aviation Group
Hawker Pacific
PDL Toll
C&E Aviation
KJM Air Charter Services
Bain
Hnz (Australia)
Hostile Environment Services
Precision Helicopters Pty Ltd
Rfds
Darwin International Airport PL
Hawker Beechcraft Corporation
Careflight Queensland
Tag Medical
Sovereign Health Care Australia
Aspen Medical
St John Ambulance Australia ( NT) Inc
Adagold Aviation Pty Ltd
Alyawarr
Immediate Assistatns
Immediate Assistants Pty Ltd
United Aero Helicopters
NT Airports
John Wade
Odav8
Pel-Air Aviation Pty Ltd
Larrakia Development Corportation
Avpharm Pty Ltd
KPMG
Air Frontier
Katherine Aviation
Webinsure
Corporate Aircraft Charter
Moonbeam Design
Army
Australian Helicopters
Careflight(Nsw) Limited
None
John Armstrong Family Trust
Chartair
Jedi Inc
Air Frontier
Pearl Aviation
Royal Flying Doctor Service of Australia Central Operations Incorporated
Inchyra Holdings Pty Ltd
Cook Medical
Pilatus Australia Pty Ltd
Jayrow Helicopters
savannah aviation
Pel-Air Aviation Pty Ltd
Ausmedivac
Aspen Medical
RFDS Western Operations
Rfdsno
gomez aviation
Gama Aviation Ltd
GSAS
Cobham Aviation Services Australia
St John Ambulance Aust (Nt) Inc
Airborne Solutions
Heliwest
Helicopters Abroad
Skytrans
Medic Oncall
Aviat Consulting Pty Limited
AMSA
ragwing aviation
pacific helicopters
Hawker Pacific
31C0
Avion Pacific
Corporate Aircraft Charter
Slingair
Royal Flying Doctor Service Of Australia (South Eastern Section)
Vincent Aviation
Andrew Mcwatters
Health Services Australia
Dept of Justice
Chc Helicopters (Australia)
Becton Dickinson Pty Ltd
The Helicopter Service Australia
MedSat Technologies Pty Ltd
MedSat
Grabbe Covey Helicopters Pty Ltd
cqsatnet
Cobham Aviation Services Australia
International Sos
Mobile Aircraft Maint
AEA Aerospace
Av8 Aviation
Aeronautical Engineers Australia
Total Aerospace Solutions Pty Ltd
Execujet Aviation Group
Hawker Pacific
PDL Toll
C&E Aviation
KJM Air Charter Services
Bain
Hnz (Australia)
Hostile Environment Services
Precision Helicopters Pty Ltd
Rfds
Darwin International Airport PL
Hawker Beechcraft Corporation
Careflight Queensland
Tag Medical
Sovereign Health Care Australia
Aspen Medical
St John Ambulance Australia ( NT) Inc
Adagold Aviation Pty Ltd
Alyawarr
Immediate Assistatns
Immediate Assistants Pty Ltd
United Aero Helicopters
NT Airports
John Wade
Odav8
Pel-Air Aviation Pty Ltd
Larrakia Development Corportation
Avpharm Pty Ltd
KPMG
Air Frontier
Katherine Aviation
Webinsure
Corporate Aircraft Charter
Moonbeam Design
Army