Virgin Cruise FO: Accepting Interest...
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Virgin Cruise FO: Accepting Interest...
I see on the VB recruitment website that VOz has just opened up recruitment for CZFO's. Has anyone got any inside information as to when recruitment will start, or how many CZFO's they are looking for, realisitic minimums they are looking for? etc I know there has been much "slagging out" on here with regards to the CZFO position and the conditions so if it could be kept civilised that would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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1,000 hours fixed wing experience (turbine experience desirable)
500 hours on multi-engine aircraft
Current ICAO ATPL (or Australian CPL with passes in all ATPL theory subjects), command multi-engine instrument rating and class one medical
English Language fluency (written and verbal comprehension)
An ability to communicate effectively in a dynamic operational environment
The desire to learn and grow
Ability to live and work in Australia
B777 type rating desirable
Wide body long haul experience desirable
The desire to learn and grow
500 hours on multi-engine aircraft
Current ICAO ATPL (or Australian CPL with passes in all ATPL theory subjects), command multi-engine instrument rating and class one medical
English Language fluency (written and verbal comprehension)
An ability to communicate effectively in a dynamic operational environment
The desire to learn and grow
Ability to live and work in Australia
B777 type rating desirable
Wide body long haul experience desirable
The desire to learn and grow
I don't think the competition would be to stiff if the salary and conditions remain as they are and no chance of progression......but you never know!
Curious to know how many type rated guys join to be Cruise FOs. That would mean you have resigned as an FO from a foreign carrier I presume.
Curious to know how many type rated guys join to be Cruise FOs. That would mean you have resigned as an FO from a foreign carrier I presume.
Not to mention, at VOz you wont be flying 1960's death traps just waiting for an engine implosion to subtract one member of your family.
$59,990 is excellent money compared to what some of these GA scoundrels are offering.
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$59,990 is excellent money compared to what some of these GA scoundrels are offering. Not to mention, at VOz you wont be flying 1960's death traps just waiting for an engine implosion to subtract one member of your family.
Now, if i have made some kind of mistake please tell me, but for me, the decision is Red and Silver... I mean Black and White.
So, "as an older bloke entering the industry..." W'QF, how much of a pay cut will you have to take to become a Wide body International Flight Deck crew member? 
Also; "young and expanding fast" does not always equal viable career opportunity, especially when your backseat experience counts for D!CK!
Also; "young and expanding fast" does not always equal viable career opportunity, especially when your backseat experience counts for D!CK!
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$59,990 is excellent money compared to what some of these GA scoundrels are offering. Not to mention, at VOz you wont be flying 1960's death traps just waiting for an engine implosion to subtract one member of your family.
You would make more money cleaning tables and pumping coffee at the coffee shop where I get my coffee........
But I imagine your comparison between flying GA and a 777 has to be accurate if you are so insular and can not look past your navel. Do yourself a chocolate flavour and apply to "reputable" airlines around the world. It is a global business these days you know........
But then again - the pay might be right and the job perfect for someone who can envisage their future as a licenced radio operator/seat warmer. Sorry what was that - you think you pilot guy ehhh?
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Lester,
"I cannot understand how in the middle of the greatest pilot shortage in recent Oz history VAust was able to put up such a hilarious CFO agreement and people actually flocked to it."
Because they have no choice. Thats why! Have a good look around GA, it's a joke generally speaking.
Until we have an EFFECTIVE GA/Regional union, this will continue to happen.
The bloody airline types just don't remember where they came from or just don't care.
End of rant!!!
"I cannot understand how in the middle of the greatest pilot shortage in recent Oz history VAust was able to put up such a hilarious CFO agreement and people actually flocked to it."
Because they have no choice. Thats why! Have a good look around GA, it's a joke generally speaking.
Until we have an EFFECTIVE GA/Regional union, this will continue to happen.
The bloody airline types just don't remember where they came from or just don't care.
End of rant!!!
What other industry has separate unions for every employer within it?
Why have a separate union for Virgin/Qantas/Regional and GA except to divide pilots up and prevent any sort of cohesive action if required. Divided everyone just fends for themselves which will continue to force conditions downwards, the comments justifying these salaries are proof of that.
Why have a separate union for Virgin/Qantas/Regional and GA except to divide pilots up and prevent any sort of cohesive action if required. Divided everyone just fends for themselves which will continue to force conditions downwards, the comments justifying these salaries are proof of that.
GA's always been a joke (at least in the way I think you mean it). I spent 9 years there, and I can say with confidence I saw the very best, and the very worst in both people and operators. As for "bloody airline types" not remembering where they came from, I can tell you I used those exact words many years ago myself. It's just not particularily true.
As for having no choice, that has always been the retreat of those willing to take the fast track even when rational thought may point to the contrary.
It's a free Country, you are free to extoll the virtues of what amounts to be an international embarresment in Pilots Term and Conditions. People such as Lester, myself and quite a few others are equally free to comment from the other side of the fence.
But we all have a choice. If your choice leads to a viable career in aviation, we'll eat our words. If it doesn't, then in years to come you may reflect that those "bloody airline types" just may have known what they were talking about.
Good luck,
Krusty.
As for having no choice, that has always been the retreat of those willing to take the fast track even when rational thought may point to the contrary.
It's a free Country, you are free to extoll the virtues of what amounts to be an international embarresment in Pilots Term and Conditions. People such as Lester, myself and quite a few others are equally free to comment from the other side of the fence.
But we all have a choice. If your choice leads to a viable career in aviation, we'll eat our words. If it doesn't, then in years to come you may reflect that those "bloody airline types" just may have known what they were talking about.
Good luck,
Krusty.