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Old 28th Nov 2016, 08:34
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What was involved in a typical training sortie in the HS125, circuit work, navaid training or did they head off into the wide blue yonder?
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Old 28th Nov 2016, 09:08
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If you want the full story:
On the B707, S/Os used to do what was called a second class endorsement. Training to be able to T/o and land the aircraft but not legally allowed to do it on line. A licence renewal was 1/2 hour at Avalon which was T/o and landing, twin locater approach and low level circuit, assymmetric as time permitted.
Come the jumbojet, this was too expensive, so the sop to the pilots was as above in the simulator and HS125 training as base training/checking on a real aircraft.
That constituted 2 hrs of " practice" and a 30' licence renewal (check).
In the practice, it was a combination of ILS, NDB, assymmetric, low level circuits etc etc etc.
The L/R consisted of a NDB,an ILS, a circuit, an assymmetric circuit.
That was it.
Conducted over two days, Narromine or Avalon sometimes you went straight back to SYD, sometimes you cooled your heels in the Lara pub until the "big" jet finished base training and went back to SYD.
In hindsight it was more of a funtwo days than a PIA as it seemed sometimes.
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Old 28th Dec 2016, 08:17
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I recognise a few names and planes on this topic.
Maybe an indication of a misspent youth.
My first flight was on a Super Connie, also the first type I wielded a spanner on as an apprentice.
Did some time on aeroplanes with big round piston engines. Still carry the scars.
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Old 30th Dec 2016, 06:36
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Re my previous post.
One of the scars came from an upside down engine, a Queen 30 as fitted to the DH Heron.
I was lining up the props after a flight, asked the PIC if the mags were off and received an affirmative.
Lined up #1 and moved on to #2 which fired up with hardly any movement of the prop by me.
The prop threw me into the fuselage side and I fell back on to the ground just in front of the rotating prop. The aircraft was inching toward me so I rolled out of the way pronto.
I then ran around the wing up the stairs into the aircraft and found the mags to all four engine in the on position. I shut #2 down and switched off the rest.
Walking down the cabin I saw blood all over the floor, I was wearing a raincoat and the sleeve was a bit over long and covering my left hand. I shoved my hand out of the sleeve to find a V between my index finger and the next one along. Could have held a real big cigar and put Winston Churchills V to shame. The prop must have done this whilst I was performing my aerobatic display.
Anyway I grabbed a stray tarmac terrier to run me into hospital where they spent some time reducing the V to v or maybe u. Good job too though the left arm still aches on a cold day all these years later.
I had a massive bruise on my upper arm which could have only come from the prop launching me into the fuse.
Lucky no doubt. Whilst I was cautious around props before this I have treated them like big black snakes ever since. With an excess of caution.
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Good to see you survived what could have been much worse. What did you end up doing to the PIC?
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Old 30th Dec 2016, 13:21
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Re QF training at Avalon. Heard plenty of it in pre sim days- You could always tell how many engines the 707 had running in the circuit from the noise (at least between 4, 3 and 2) - and sometimes we suspected 1 as:
more noise
often longer between circuits (extend downwind for restart?)

By the Matric exams hardly noticed it.

Maybe I should sue QF for the nice letter from Dr Ruth? from DCA - something like "while I have issued you a Class 1 medical the hearing tests indicates you have severe noise deafness and this will get worse as you age. You should consider your career options"
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Old 30th Dec 2016, 15:22
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JT,
I may have said something along the lines of "golly old chap you left the dashed magnetos on" though I suspect I was coarser than that making possible reference to his sexual inclinations and dubious parentage.
He did cough up with a carton as I recall.
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Old 30th Dec 2016, 21:26
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The following list of people share a link with James Air Charter P/L, Commerce International P/L, Ansett General Aviation P/L. or Bankstown Airport in the 50's & 60's.

JIM BRAY, JOE BOWDEN, LEN CARMEL, MAX CONRAD, DICK COOMBS, JOHN COUGLE, JACK DAVIDSON, BARRY DAVIS, PAT DAVIES, BRUCE DEADMAN, MARK DIGNAM, SAM DODD,NOEL DODWELL, DOUG FAWCETT, MARJORIE GADD, JOHN GAMBLE, RON GREEN, FRED GREENTREE, LEN GUY, CAL HALLOW, KEN HOLT, LES JAYCOCK, CLIFF JEFFCOATE, BOB JERVIS, MILTON KENT, JOHN LARKIN, PETER LLOYD, PAT LONG, LEN LYMOUTH(dec), JOHN MACKNIGHT, SID MARSHALL(dec), PAT MATHEWS, KEN MAY(dec), RICHARD McCLEAN, ROSS McKAY, ERN McQUILLAN, ALAN MORFOOT, ALAN PARKES, LUIGI PELLARINI, STEVE PADGETT, ALAN PETTIFORD, KIETH ROBEY, BOB ROUSTON(dec), JUDY SHARP, LES SHAYLOR, JACK SHULTZ, ROBERT SHUTE (dec) JOHN B SMITH, "HOCKEY" TRELOAR, LEN TUCK, BOB VALE, BRIAN WALKER, VIC WALTON, DENIS WOODWARD
Does anyone know what became of John Gamble and John Smith, very respected gentlemen in a cut throat world!!

I guess Brian Walker was probably "Blackjack"? Blackjack fell off his stool in 1997, aged 84.
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Old 30th Dec 2016, 21:44
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"Benders Spreading Services"
Not sure I'd like to fly an aircraft with this written down the side!
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Old 30th Dec 2016, 22:10
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Tail Wheel,
I came across a few of those names in the '60s. They were more scattered when I met them.
There were some interesting folk about the shop back then.
It seemed to me most had dropped out by the '80s.
SD

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