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Don't get me wrong, the last thing I want to do is scare good people like you. If you apply yourself in the same manner as you have so far, then frankly you should be fine. needless to say, I'm more than happy to offer advice.
The main thing I was getting at, is the standards are the same as they have always been. They were originally applied to 4-5 thousand hour applicants with around 2000 hours total time on the SAAB. That was about the experience level of candidates not too many years ago. Some still failed, but the majority however got through. I also don't believe that this high level of experience is necessarily a minimum, but there comes a point where this lack of experience can, and does make the difference for a growing number of candidates.
It is this growing number of failures that REX can ill afford. So what does REX need to do? The answer is obvious.
Don't get me wrong, the last thing I want to do is scare good people like you. If you apply yourself in the same manner as you have so far, then frankly you should be fine. needless to say, I'm more than happy to offer advice.
The main thing I was getting at, is the standards are the same as they have always been. They were originally applied to 4-5 thousand hour applicants with around 2000 hours total time on the SAAB. That was about the experience level of candidates not too many years ago. Some still failed, but the majority however got through. I also don't believe that this high level of experience is necessarily a minimum, but there comes a point where this lack of experience can, and does make the difference for a growing number of candidates.
It is this growing number of failures that REX can ill afford. So what does REX need to do? The answer is obvious.
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It ain`t all bad, as Krusty stated, the checks and training have a high standard, and this is recognised by many airlines. The pay may not be crash hot, but it`s a company that is full of great people and will be the most fun flying you will ever do in your career as an airline pilot.
Take from the experience what you can.
good luck
Take from the experience what you can.
good luck
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FMC, yeah i`m pretty sure QF do min wx circling approaches into LAX when the weather is bad, without the AP engaged to keep up the hand skills in the 747-400. 
I stated "airline flying" because thats what it is. It wasn`t taking anything from G.A. of course that in itself is a whole different (fun) experience so don`t take offence. When it comes to operating multi-crew airline type ops, hammering around in a 340 or a Dash 8 is about the most fun you`ll have and i`m sure many will agree
I stated "airline flying" because thats what it is. It wasn`t taking anything from G.A. of course that in itself is a whole different (fun) experience so don`t take offence. When it comes to operating multi-crew airline type ops, hammering around in a 340 or a Dash 8 is about the most fun you`ll have and i`m sure many will agree
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REX Cadets? Any News?
Does anyone know if the REX cadets have finished their course?
I was led to believe that they were to finish this month? if they have I was curious to know what the outcome was after all of the discussion recently.
If so how many qualified? and whats the general feeling out there on how it all went? are the cadets happy with the way they were/are dealt with at the end of it all? Does this mean REX will stop recruiting outside direct entry pilots?
Anyone out there in the know?
I was led to believe that they were to finish this month? if they have I was curious to know what the outcome was after all of the discussion recently.
If so how many qualified? and whats the general feeling out there on how it all went? are the cadets happy with the way they were/are dealt with at the end of it all? Does this mean REX will stop recruiting outside direct entry pilots?
Anyone out there in the know?
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I have heard (via the grapevine) that the first course is about to start the SAAB Groundschool shortly. Rumour has it that of the original class only half will be in attendance!
Any Cadets care to comment on that?
Any Cadets care to comment on that?
Mate, come back to this thread in 2 years and you will laugh at your naivety. I'll give you a 1% chance you will be happy earning less than pretty much EVERY other worker in town and putting up with a helluva lot more **** day to day than them.
Sorry to rain on your parade, but you will find a lot of other guys in this "profession" will not share your view.
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Dom,
This is why these shonky airlines treat their pilots the way they do.
We/You should not just be content with a job in the aviation sector, but strive to earn/gain a decent income and respect.
REX do neither and will continue down this path until their pilots make a stand.
We have all invested too much blood, sweat and tears to be getting less than a truck driver or someone labouring on a building site (no offence to these professions)
This is why these shonky airlines treat their pilots the way they do.
We/You should not just be content with a job in the aviation sector, but strive to earn/gain a decent income and respect.
REX do neither and will continue down this path until their pilots make a stand.
We have all invested too much blood, sweat and tears to be getting less than a truck driver or someone labouring on a building site (no offence to these professions)
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Application for REX Cadetship
Hi all,
Without getting into the debate of whether or not this cadetship is a worthwhile initiative, I would like some advice from everyone about the competitiveness of the program.
I am a professionally employed 25 year old with about 11 hours flying experience in a Cessna 152 (currently learning circuits - pre solo). Other than that my resume contains nothing relevant to flying, a postgrad degree in business and 5 years as a manager etc.
I have put in an application for the REX cadetship and was wondering if anyone knows anything about how they will screen my application intially? Do I have a chance?
I would greatly appreciate any feedback anyone can offer here.
Thanks,
Grant
Without getting into the debate of whether or not this cadetship is a worthwhile initiative, I would like some advice from everyone about the competitiveness of the program.
I am a professionally employed 25 year old with about 11 hours flying experience in a Cessna 152 (currently learning circuits - pre solo). Other than that my resume contains nothing relevant to flying, a postgrad degree in business and 5 years as a manager etc.
I have put in an application for the REX cadetship and was wondering if anyone knows anything about how they will screen my application intially? Do I have a chance?
I would greatly appreciate any feedback anyone can offer here.
Thanks,
Grant
I'd tell you if I knew GrantC83.
All things Cadet have been locked up pretty tightly. Last thing they want is anything to corrupt JD's baby.
One thing I do know however is that pilots with any usefull experience need not apply. The term captive workforce comes to mind!
So mate, you just may be in with a chance. One word of advice though, at the interview ask them where you will be in 5 years? No scratch that. They'll probably say you'd be a Shuttle Commander!
Better to have a read of the threads .
Krusty.
All things Cadet have been locked up pretty tightly. Last thing they want is anything to corrupt JD's baby.
One thing I do know however is that pilots with any usefull experience need not apply. The term captive workforce comes to mind!
So mate, you just may be in with a chance. One word of advice though, at the interview ask them where you will be in 5 years? No scratch that. They'll probably say you'd be a Shuttle Commander!
Better to have a read of the threads .
Krusty.
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Rex Cadetship - Employment
Hey Guys - just curious or absolutely mad not sure quiet which one, however, I wrote to REX about the cadetship (which yeah is a bit of a raw deal) in saying this I have a CPL, NVFR, ME CIR blah, blah, blah and am about 150hours shy of applying as a first officer they want minimum 800 hours 200 or 250 IF.
What I don't understand is they are prepared to loan money to an unknown quantity who more than likely has no idea how to operate an aircraft or what it takes to fly one in the crap - yes, with a pay back, but there is no real guarentee that would happen in reality if you quit, there could be an at large wait for the cash if you physically don't have it or can not get it - so here is where I become dumb founded - someone in my situation they will not touch nor make any concession for - seems dumb, doesn't it.?
A trained, Australian guy - knows the drill, been there done it, spent the bucks, already been involved with operations, knows the country - I can speak English, can someone tell me why or explain to me why they would not cultivate not just little old me, but there are others in my position looking for a start, surely they could place people like me in Pelair or something for a few months, or is it easier to import pilots than to make a small investment in training.
Maybe we will see REX home loans soon..?? I am confused, I just don't get it..! Maybe I should go back out bush - seem easier out there..!!
FIK
What I don't understand is they are prepared to loan money to an unknown quantity who more than likely has no idea how to operate an aircraft or what it takes to fly one in the crap - yes, with a pay back, but there is no real guarentee that would happen in reality if you quit, there could be an at large wait for the cash if you physically don't have it or can not get it - so here is where I become dumb founded - someone in my situation they will not touch nor make any concession for - seems dumb, doesn't it.?
A trained, Australian guy - knows the drill, been there done it, spent the bucks, already been involved with operations, knows the country - I can speak English, can someone tell me why or explain to me why they would not cultivate not just little old me, but there are others in my position looking for a start, surely they could place people like me in Pelair or something for a few months, or is it easier to import pilots than to make a small investment in training.
Maybe we will see REX home loans soon..?? I am confused, I just don't get it..! Maybe I should go back out bush - seem easier out there..!!
FIK
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Granth, just get the 150hrs buddy! That's 2 months work in a good GA job. REX, just like QF, has introduced two avenues for pilot employment - direct entry and cadets, and a line has to be drawn to separate the two. In this case, it's no/little experience vs 800hrs with 300 MEIF (or whatever it is now).
"A trained, Australian guy - knows the drill, been there done it, spent the bucks, already been involved with operations, knows the country - I can speak English...."
You sound like every other Australian pilot.
The cadetship is there to teach the cadets how to fly the way REX (or any airline) wants them to. These guys will be trained how to "operate an aircraft" and "fly one in the crap" just like any other IFR pilot, so lets not bag them out because of their current experience, that will be built upon as their training progresses.
Most would argue that 150hrs shy of REX's mins is far from being experienced! I would agree with you and say go back to the bush, meet the mins, get the job.
"A trained, Australian guy - knows the drill, been there done it, spent the bucks, already been involved with operations, knows the country - I can speak English...."
You sound like every other Australian pilot.
The cadetship is there to teach the cadets how to fly the way REX (or any airline) wants them to. These guys will be trained how to "operate an aircraft" and "fly one in the crap" just like any other IFR pilot, so lets not bag them out because of their current experience, that will be built upon as their training progresses.
Most would argue that 150hrs shy of REX's mins is far from being experienced! I would agree with you and say go back to the bush, meet the mins, get the job.
Well said pylet.
granth with all due respect, the direct entry F/O training and checking program at REX has for many years been tailored around the 2-3000 hour candidate with at least 1000 hours multi-IFR under his/her belt. Necessity has dictated that REX now employ pilots with significantly less experience, although the standards remain unchanged. As a result the failure rate at REX has soared, and it seems that this is something the company is willing to accept!
The Cadet program is entirely different (as pylet said). Whether or not it is sucessful still remains to be seen. And even though you have more hours than the average cadet, the notion that you have been there and done that is probably a little premature.
granth with all due respect, the direct entry F/O training and checking program at REX has for many years been tailored around the 2-3000 hour candidate with at least 1000 hours multi-IFR under his/her belt. Necessity has dictated that REX now employ pilots with significantly less experience, although the standards remain unchanged. As a result the failure rate at REX has soared, and it seems that this is something the company is willing to accept!
The Cadet program is entirely different (as pylet said). Whether or not it is sucessful still remains to be seen. And even though you have more hours than the average cadet, the notion that you have been there and done that is probably a little premature.
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A bit of REX related news just spotted on the local tv news service.Air Link has effectively been shut.All RPT services have been cancelled as of late December, with charter to remain for now.Quoted reason being because removal of a government subsidy makes the routes concerned unviable.Posting from memory (was burning food at the time and heard from a distance) so I will confirm and amend details as required.
Edit: media release on the REX website:
Media Release Archive
Edit: media release on the REX website:
Media Release Archive
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Progress
The first bunch of cadets are now being processed through ground school, a few at a time (apparently to ensure that some guys with more experience will be in the mix, ie: upgradable sooner).
Hope that answers your question Krusty, as none of those cadets have failed or dropped out - it is a staggered entry for reasons mentioned above.
Rumour has it, the performance of this first group (of cadets) has been greater than the direct entry guys.
Sim training to start shortly.
So the "remain to be seen" success of the cadets, is now becoming more of a reality than a mirage.
I have my popcorn in hand...
ps - May I point out, I in no way am interested in giving/having an opinion on conditions etc at Rex, rather, want to point out that these guys and gals deserve a chance no matter what the relevance of the two have to one another.
Hope that answers your question Krusty, as none of those cadets have failed or dropped out - it is a staggered entry for reasons mentioned above.
Rumour has it, the performance of this first group (of cadets) has been greater than the direct entry guys.
Sim training to start shortly.
So the "remain to be seen" success of the cadets, is now becoming more of a reality than a mirage.
I have my popcorn in hand...
ps - May I point out, I in no way am interested in giving/having an opinion on conditions etc at Rex, rather, want to point out that these guys and gals deserve a chance no matter what the relevance of the two have to one another.