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Old 27th Aug 2009, 00:23
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Pyro...Might want to read to post before wiz's then edit yours somewhat...I believe upon re-reading it you will see it is sarcasm

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Old 27th Aug 2009, 01:04
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An NDB on a stormy night in a PC12 on one would be interesting
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An NDB on a stormy night in a PC12 on one would be interesting
Yeah, but not nearly as interesting as an NDB on a stormy night in a B200 on one!

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Old 27th Aug 2009, 05:01
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An NDB on a stormy night in a PC12 on one would be interesting
Yeah, but not nearly as interesting as interesting as an NDB on a stormy night in a B200 on one!
Except when you land afterwards in the B200 you thank your lucky stars you have two. In the PC12 you thank your lucky stars it didn't quit and ask yourself why you do this again?
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I'd take one PT-6 over two Garretts GG
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Oyyyy

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Old 27th Aug 2009, 10:58
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I'm with the cub man.
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Ozepat would know, as he is with PNG CAA !
For the benefit of whoever wrote that comment before editting it out, I have no idea who "Ozepat" [sic] is, but OzExpat certainly does know and, for those who are sufficiently bored to check my profile, you will find that I am far from anonymous here (unlike a person who was being clever in trying to "out" me!).

I've already said as much as I intend to say about this matter on an anonymous forum. To the person who wishes to understand the situation better - as you clearly know me and where I am - why not come in and talk to me about it?
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FYI as promised

www.casr.gov.pg Part 129
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cant look at it as its a reported attack site.

But it just so happens I have the rules at hand.

so, can you clarify that your definite that the operator meets the requirements for being called an air operator?.
129.3 : Definitions
:Air operation means the carriage of passengers, mail or cargo by air for hire or reward:

If the operation is not by definition an air operation, surely part 129 doesn't count. it would clearly mean they are simply a PVT operation going about their business, wouldn't it?

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Old 1st Sep 2009, 10:24
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Our website has been attacked several times in the past 8-12 months while we have had no access to it. The ISP that hosts the site hasn't been in any hurry to help us so we have, quite recently, gone to another ISP to build and host a new site. This, it is hoped, will be a short-term answer because there's a plan to recruit our own IT staff to build, host and maintain our own site.

Sorry if anyone has been inconvenienced by lack of access to our current site but we truly had no control and nobody can tell us how the site was hacked to become an "attack site", when we had no access or control over it. With all of our other problems, we most certainly could've done without this one.
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Old 1st Sep 2009, 21:39
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if this reference that I put into this post was available earlier say, in post #2 it would have saved everyone their time.
It answers my questions and shows that VH-JMU is able to operate legally on commercial ops in PNG so long as it meets the obligations of the Act.
It is not a private op as readers were saying, read Part 129 in full.

It would appear that the 90 days then the ac needs to be P2-ed does not exist anymore.
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Old 2nd Sep 2009, 00:36
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Night Beetle,
How do you KNOW that it's not conducting a private operation though?

And what do you have against the company that owns this PC-12?? They not give you a job or something?

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Old 2nd Sep 2009, 06:22
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Like I said in my previous post, unless the operator is designated an air operator via the definition I quoted, part 129 doesn't concern them. so they are exempted from the part 129.1 (a)(1)(2).
I will have a read further into it and see if I can make out what your refering to. maybe I missed something.
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JMU is flying shinny rocks out of Kairik and Kiunya these are 2 separate mines owned and operated by 2 separate companies.... It cannot be a private operation!

P2 machines cannot fly into Cairns then onto Mt Isa and do work for Australian mining companies.

Unless I'm wrong

Yes some exemption can be obtained to do this but for no longer the 90 days and JMU has been well over 90 days
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Old 2nd Sep 2009, 10:23
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Proof is what the regulator requires to do anything about it. otherwise it is quite believable that it is a company flying their own employees in and out of various mines to do the consulting work they are employed to do, thus making it a PVT flight. if it can be proven that the operation is indeed a commercial operation, I am sure they will suffer the deserved wrath of the regulator.
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Old 2nd Sep 2009, 13:05
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What the hell are "shinny rocks"??
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Old 2nd Sep 2009, 14:11
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Gold! Morno, Gold! (Geeup can't spell but is good at mixing up the pot!)
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JMU arrives with 1 POB gun guards come load boxes gun guards go JMU departs with 1 POB
Commerical operation....
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geeup, could it be possible that whatever is loaded on to the aircraft might just be the aircraft owners own property and he is taking it to wherever he wants ! Which of course he can do. Keep trying to twist this into something it isn't, you might finish up with either a good novel to sell or even a film script. Perhaps you could call it "Conspiracy Theory" and get Tom Cruise to star in it!
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