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Old 20th Aug 2009, 10:16
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Single Kingair VH-JMU in PNG

I see VH-JMU going into PNG a fair bit,doing both domestic and international work, who up there has it on their AOC or foreign AOC RA\APNG???

Bean counters would love it,,,,,,,,,only one engine

Must be the new low cost charter, plenty of C208's, baby kingair's and grown up kingair's there to when last in Moresby.


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For a start, JMU is a PC12. It is not involved in commercial operations. This same aeroplane goes into various parts of Indonesia and, as I understand it, even further afield. I'll let you do the rest of the research for yourself.
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single king-air?

Pilatus PC-12 you mean!

JMU spends much time hanging around YRED.. or did when I hung around there.

Time for me to go to bed,

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What goes on at Kairik that requires customs officers to be flown in for special flights direct to TOWNSVILLE.................Private flights my bum
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It matters not whether an international flight is private, charter, military or RPT, it is still required to comply with entry/exit regulations ie Customs clearance.

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TL-KRK-TL, I would have no idea what they would be bringing out of KRK ??? Shinny rocks maybe ?
Beetle, looks like you have some kind of an issue here man !
Who says it's not a private operation,there's a number of private operators operating in and out of PNG from Australia on a regular basis. A couple the comes to mind is Curtain Brothers with their King Air and Beech 1900, Pacific Reliners also have a Caravan that frequents Lihir Island every few months, when Lihir Gold shuts their mill down for maintenance. There is also quite a few commercial operators in PNG who do more private flying than commercial flying, as they are owned by companys who have bought the aircraft for there own use.

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Ozepat would know, as he is with PNG CAA !
Ozex is too much of a professional to reveal any privileged information.

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I sat in the right hand seat of a PC-12 from Halim to Kalimantan then onto Malaysia a few months ago , I have to say the PC-12 is very impressive.

It flys well , has a large flight envelope , well equipped and well finished.

The biggest resistance factor here in Indonesia is the single engine , I spoke with a medivac operator this week who has a Super King Air 200 and he said although they like the PC-12 and would like to use one their customers want a twin so that's what they get.
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Grrr

VH-JMU is an illegal operation in PNG it is not doing private work at all!
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Joseph might think it is a Russian Helicopter and 'approved' the operation himself...................
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Is APNG trying to take the PC12 to court?
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gee,
geeup you would know this how?? define a private op and than tell me it is not privately operated and is operating illegally. If it was an illegal operation than why has the plane not been confiscated or refused entry? maybe because it has appoval and cleares customs upon every entry and does so on a regular basis.
Upon a little research (not hard these days with the internet) one would find that this aeroplane is operated in and out of png by a mining consulting agency ( gee an aeroplane operated by a mining consulting agency flying to a mine, sounds dodgy to me )
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Seems like another way of bypassing the PNG aviation laws to me

So this consultancy company must own all the 'shinny rocks" that it flys around..........My bet that there is a big quarry of shinny rocks nearly everywhere it goes

CAA,as has been shown would have no idea.........

It is anotherway of bucking the system.....good luck to APNG for having the "plums"
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Night Beetle,
If you're so concerned and convinced something illegal is going on, why don't you report it to Customs?

Sounds like you've just got it in for them. Give it a break.

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Morno\Tipsy

I think you are missing the point

It has nothing to do with Customs,it IS PNG CAA.No connection there.

What started as simple question,still has not produced any credable answers.
The operators in PNG are missing out,that is my angle.

If it is shown as legit,then I stand corrected. But prove it..........
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Night Beetle

I know absolutely nothing about the operation in question, but...

It's not up to them to "prove it" to someone on an anonymous forum.

It's up to you - or anyone else - to prove that what they are doing is not legit

PS. What the hell are "shinny rocks"?
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Night Beetle,
I think you are missing the point even more. If you're so concerned about it, then why don't you let the relevant authorities know??

Bitching and whinging on pprune about it isn't going to do a thing, other than show that you've got some sort of agenda.

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Sorry I can't spell,maybe to many "White Cans".
The "Shinny Rocks" I'm referring to is GOLD.

I heard the machine going out to Lihir today.

In regard to the aircraft I recon that machine would be an idea aircraft for PNG if operated appropriately in PNG. I can't wait for the experts to shoot me down on that statement. What's the S/E service ceiling of a B200 at ISA+20 ?I should know but I can't remember,but I do know that it's no where 14000 feet at MTOW.
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CAA,as has been shown would have no idea.........
Unless there has been a breach of any rules, they don't have to have any idea.
What rules are you proposing have been breached?. if the aircraft is being operated by the company that owns it, and are using it for transport of their own employees, they are quite within the rules as PVT ops. Mining consultants do usually fly in and out of mines that produce "shinny" rocks.

Just out of interest, as its been several years since I have flown a PC12, what is the service ceiling of the PC12? after a single engine failure.

Is it me or did you just out yourself by forgetting to log in under the other user name?. To many "White cans" again?? ( I prefer the green ones myself )
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Just out of interest, as its been several years since I have flown a PC12, what is the service ceiling of the PC12? after a single engine failure.
You Can't be serious... ... can you?

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