A380 in heavy landing at Oshkosh
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notice no attempt to put the left wheel assemblies down first even slightly to reduce the overall impact
Nor the 747, not unless you want to scrape a pod.
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or punch the wing gear through the top of the wing like the 747
If you're telling me that I am mistaken in my understanding of 747 crosswind landing techniques then let's not bog down this thread but start a Tech Log thread and ask along the other pilots with several thousand hours in them.
Whether the technique not to use the traditional method of ldg in a x-wind IE: into wing U/C down first is academic 'cause it IS used a lot whether intentionally or not. You Tube show many such ldg's in wing mounted pod engined craft.
I used to spend many an hour at Tulla in a previous life watching the heavy metal "arrive" in x-wind situations, you could write a book on the amount of different ways these these so called experts where trying to slam down a few hundred tonnes of almost out of control metal inc QF not just the Asian jobs!
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I used to spend many an hour at Tulla in a previous life watching the heavy metal "arrive" in x-wind situations, you could write a book on the amount of different ways these these so called experts where trying to slam down a few hundred tonnes of almost out of control metal inc QF not just the Asian jobs!
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X-wind Technique
Book procedure:
My usual technique:
With apologies to those I've plagarised this from!
But seriously - B747 Flight Crew training manual (Boeing version) says not to put wing down into wind. I suspect A380 is the same. 7 degrees AofB I think from memory before pod strike - not worth the risk for a smoother touch down!!
- flare
- rudder to align with centreline
- aileron to keep wings level
- land
My usual technique:
- land
- rudder
- flare
- level wings
With apologies to those I've plagarised this from!
But seriously - B747 Flight Crew training manual (Boeing version) says not to put wing down into wind. I suspect A380 is the same. 7 degrees AofB I think from memory before pod strike - not worth the risk for a smoother touch down!!
Not to forget...She would be as light as....regardless of size, that is a lot of flying surface with very little to do but go with the wind. Good Job to the PF
I reckon you gotta get it solidly planted before all the little goodies start doing their thing to turn it into a 200tonne 18 wheeler....or is that 24?
Like kicking a cub in a stiff xwind!
I reckon you gotta get it solidly planted before all the little goodies start doing their thing to turn it into a 200tonne 18 wheeler....or is that 24?
Like kicking a cub in a stiff xwind!
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I see your heavy landing and raise with the pics of the wing tip damage to the A320 in the above vid. Would have ben a hoot to be in some of those go arounds.
YouTube - Wingstrike pictures A320 Lufthansa in Hamburg
YouTube - Wingstrike pictures A320 Lufthansa in Hamburg
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Wally Mk 2 points out that no attempt was made to put the upwind side of the aircraft on the ground first to help counter the effect of the crosswind, as "a technique used by every sized A/C at times".
Sounds like Wally thinks it's a good idea to put one leg onto the ground first to absorb impact, NOT to counter the effect of the crosswind.
Maybe we should ask him. Where's Wally?
I've never heard of any sort of technique like that for ANY size aircraft. Why TF would you absorb the landing shock with ONE leg when you could absorb it with TWO? Is this taught nowadays?
Personally I think it's a good idea to lower the into-wind wing to counter the effects of the crosswind - but not on an Airbus, which is programmed to do its own thing, not what the pilot happens to want.... but hey it DOES have a fold-out dinner table.
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Sorry mate, don't understand what you're trying to say. Wally Mk 2 points out that no attempt was made to put the upwind side of the aircraft on the ground first to help counter the effect of the crosswind
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