Merged: Pel Air vs RFDS for the Air Ambulance contract in Australia
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PPRuNe......... the Ru = Rumour
I think one poster early on confirmed it all, it may not be 100% inked.... but the sounds of it suggest it will be.
Could go pear shaped and the RFDS stay......... thats life!
PPRuNe......... the Ru = Rumour
I think one poster early on confirmed it all, it may not be 100% inked.... but the sounds of it suggest it will be.
Could go pear shaped and the RFDS stay......... thats life!
When is the NSW Air Ambulance tender due to be announced?
Didn't Vic Air Ambulance and NSW Air Ambulance ask for a joint tenderer's earlier this year?
Talk on the streets is that REX have told the NSW government, that if they don't get that contract, they will reduce there RPT services in regional NSW.
Didn't Vic Air Ambulance and NSW Air Ambulance ask for a joint tenderer's earlier this year?
Talk on the streets is that REX have told the NSW government, that if they don't get that contract, they will reduce there RPT services in regional NSW.
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Stationair Ask the Med Crew if they would prefer a chopper over fixed wing when its a 300Nm+ Hospital to Hospital transfer flight...nah..the next innovation will be a stand up cabin
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Wally....when and if the time comes, there will always be a shiny new PC12 for you to play with at another section.
Thats a funny post right there. Wally, your reaction was nothing like I was expecting either. 
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Rumour is that the Tasmanian government are looking at going all rotary with a Bell 412 based out of the north west and another one in Hobart.
The Dr Sharley report is pro helicopter a lot more efficient, medical staff prefer rotary and it has the ability to operate in all weathers to the west coast etc. Interesting reading for those who like to see how government departments look at problem solving etc.
Looks like the B200 is so last century!
The Dr Sharley report is pro helicopter a lot more efficient, medical staff prefer rotary and it has the ability to operate in all weathers to the west coast etc. Interesting reading for those who like to see how government departments look at problem solving etc.
Looks like the B200 is so last century!
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medical staff prefer rotary and it has the ability to operate in all weathers to the west coast
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couple of questions on this thread
Q1 - who changed the title of this thread and why? it started off as something like "RFDS get boot from VIC air ambulance" - was it politically correct to change the title or was someone's ego hurt too much??
Q2 - what is the prediction for the rest of the air ambulance contacts coming due? - my guess is - NSW = Pelair, QLD = Pelair, NT = Pelair and CareFlight. If this is proved correct it will herald a resurgence of commercial providers of contract aviation services and also put RFDS back where they do their best work, fed govt funded remote services - Clyde sent RFDS in the wrong commercial direction and they have been learning that lesson for the past 7 years, losing money hand over fist just so his ego could be stroked by wan*er politicians.
All those of you who don't have a clue - and from the quality of the posts here on this subject it is the majority, save your comments and smilies and wait for someone who knows what is going on to make a valid contribution.
PDW
Q2 - what is the prediction for the rest of the air ambulance contacts coming due? - my guess is - NSW = Pelair, QLD = Pelair, NT = Pelair and CareFlight. If this is proved correct it will herald a resurgence of commercial providers of contract aviation services and also put RFDS back where they do their best work, fed govt funded remote services - Clyde sent RFDS in the wrong commercial direction and they have been learning that lesson for the past 7 years, losing money hand over fist just so his ego could be stroked by wan*er politicians.
All those of you who don't have a clue - and from the quality of the posts here on this subject it is the majority, save your comments and smilies and wait for someone who knows what is going on to make a valid contribution.
PDW
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I can tell you the contracts have done nothing but good things for SE Section and they have been well resourced all the way. I say well done to the people of SE Section who have contributed to the contract bases. The thing is the contract was not lost, it was always going to end on July 1 2011, it has just not been re-won and I would bet in this case it is not based on past performance.
Wait and see on SY, you are only guessing.
I can tell you the contracts have done nothing but good things for SE Section and they have been well resourced all the way. I say well done to the people of SE Section who have contributed to the contract bases. The thing is the contract was not lost, it was always going to end on July 1 2011, it has just not been re-won and I would bet in this case it is not based on past performance.
Wait and see on SY, you are only guessing.
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Quote:
"All those of you who don't have a clue - and from the quality of the posts here on this subject it is the majority, save your comments and smilies and wait for someone who knows what is going on to make a valid contribution."
What?.......as in a valid contribution to a RUMOR network........... long bows and wide guessing is what it's all about...
(this smiley is on me).
"All those of you who don't have a clue - and from the quality of the posts here on this subject it is the majority, save your comments and smilies and wait for someone who knows what is going on to make a valid contribution."
What?.......as in a valid contribution to a RUMOR network........... long bows and wide guessing is what it's all about...
(this smiley is on me).
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Evening All,
Long time reader and admirer (well....most of the time!), first time poster!
And what effect will all this, if it be true and correct, do you lot think this will have on the Tassie Ops??
Is the thinking that they will also fall?? If so, when is that contract up?
Cheers All!!
AB
Long time reader and admirer (well....most of the time!), first time poster!
And what effect will all this, if it be true and correct, do you lot think this will have on the Tassie Ops??
Is the thinking that they will also fall?? If so, when is that contract up?
Cheers All!!
AB
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Is the B350 type decided or just rumour.
If decided, it has the shortfall of not being able to operate IFR at night to a destination not served by an approved Instrument Approach.
(AIP ENR - Flight Planning)
Maybe that is not so much a problem in the south of the country?
If decided, it has the shortfall of not being able to operate IFR at night to a destination not served by an approved Instrument Approach.
(AIP ENR - Flight Planning)
Maybe that is not so much a problem in the south of the country?
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BM,
With regards to the NSWAA contract as others have said, we are all guessing at this stage.
Current rumour and far from being decided is a combination of 200/350 at this stage, (possibly 2x2) this will ultimately be determined by the ambulance service.
I don't have the AIP's handy, would the requirement to carry an alternate not be sufficient ? (given the 350 is over 5700)
It would affect ops into about 7 airports in western NSW. (not including the area served by the BHI aircraft)
The boys and girls at EN will be hoping like hell that Rex management have a dramatic change of attitude towards their staff before 1/7/2011 (assuming current staff are offered ongoing employment
)
It will no doubt be a very different "conditions sandwich" being offered by Pelair/Rex/SQ.
Good luck to all when the time comes.
With regards to the NSWAA contract as others have said, we are all guessing at this stage.
Current rumour and far from being decided is a combination of 200/350 at this stage, (possibly 2x2) this will ultimately be determined by the ambulance service.
I don't have the AIP's handy, would the requirement to carry an alternate not be sufficient ? (given the 350 is over 5700)
It would affect ops into about 7 airports in western NSW. (not including the area served by the BHI aircraft)
The boys and girls at EN will be hoping like hell that Rex management have a dramatic change of attitude towards their staff before 1/7/2011 (assuming current staff are offered ongoing employment
)It will no doubt be a very different "conditions sandwich" being offered by Pelair/Rex/SQ.
Good luck to all when the time comes.
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You are of course correct. There are compliance issues regarding the use of 350's. Two crew or SP, the IFR aerodrome thing and balanced field etc. CASA can issue exemtions of course but I don't see this happening on a permanant basis.They also have to crew these aircraft and that would require ATPL allowance and there still is no excess of available qualified pilots. The next operator should be very carefull not to under quote.
The 350 bit is just rumer and no more, I would not be suprised if 200's are re-instated.
You are of course correct. There are compliance issues regarding the use of 350's. Two crew or SP, the IFR aerodrome thing and balanced field etc. CASA can issue exemtions of course but I don't see this happening on a permanant basis.They also have to crew these aircraft and that would require ATPL allowance and there still is no excess of available qualified pilots. The next operator should be very carefull not to under quote.
The 350 bit is just rumer and no more, I would not be suprised if 200's are re-instated.
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Now then, here we go again. It seems they may have been going for the Vic Air ambulance contract. I hear now that they have it.
Horatio
350's cant do a no aid aerodrome at night. Not sure how effective that would be? Or do they only do the non-critical work on a pre planned route? Would the extra capacity of a 350 cover the extra cost of the FO?
DD
Horatio
Was chatting with an ex-Pelair driver the other day who told me PelAir have tendered for the NSW Air Ambulance contract against the RFDS, using B350s.
DD
