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Old 1st May 2009, 10:12
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Does Perth have a resident UFO?

I was wondering if anyone could help me out with this one.....

It was taken in the Northern Suburbs at 22:20 on Sunday 26th April. I didnt see it myself, but it was travelling from the South East to the North West, but staying slightly East of Wanneroo. It had taken approx 5 mins to travel from horizon to horizon and there was no noise from the craft. There is another and better video of it on Youtube, but there is a little swearing so I wont post the link here.

YouTube - U.F.O Perth Australia

The bloke who took the video isn't yet ready to call it a UFO, but he is keen on finding out what it is. The same thing was seen a week earlier in Albany

If anybody can say 'Yep that was me' or if a Pprune ATCer can say 'it was FLT XXX flying to, from', that would be appreciated. I would like to go back to the bloke in concern with details rather then just "it was only an aircraft".

Failing that, who would be the best to ring and see if it had been tracked on radar?

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The ISS shows up pretty bright to the naked eye but there were no visible passes at all on or around 26th April
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Have you checked WebTrak to see what was out there at that time?
 
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The bloke who took the video isn't yet ready to call it a UFO
If it was flying and he doesn't know what it is, then I'd say it's definitely a UFO.

Unless you mean he's not ready to call it an alien spaceship?
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Saw the same thing over cairns about 12 months ago, moving southeast to northwest. Never found out what it was. Very bright, no sound, and travelling very fast judging by the height and speed of movement. The fact it was the same brightness from horizon to horizon and that it was seen at 2200 rules out a satellite.
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Glowing orange/red... going in the same direction as the wind... always seen at night to make identification of size and height difficult... sounds like a sky lantern. Can get extremely high and are often identified as UFOs.
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I saw that years ago while walking back from the aircraft across the apron. For whatever reason my eyes went skyward and noticed a glowing orange object in the north sky silently moving east to west above me at a decent rate of knots. My thought process went from thinking weather ballon to a military jet doing military things between Perth and Pearce, then a shooting star because of it's speed and lack of noise. Suddenly it became stationary, slowly "danced" around in a square pattern stopping at each corner of the "square" and then blasted west at incredible speed like something out of a scifi film.

No one else from the crew saw it, none of the ramp guys saw it and they all had me committed. At least now, thanks to the rise of youtube, I can prove I'm not insane.
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No you can't Led Zep! The YouTube videos simply indicate that there are others out there just as insane as you.
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I gather I can look forward to some new room mates in my padded cell, in that case.
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The fact it was the same brightness from horizon to horizon and that it was seen at 2200 rules out a satellite.
Why does that rule out a satellite? The only reason why 'satellites' seem to change in brightness is due to them not really being a satellite but things like spent rocket stages tumbling in orbit, hence reflecting sunlight as it tumbles.

It could be that this satellite isn't tumbling...

Also another phenomenon called Iridium flares show that you can see satellites in bright daylight....
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Cypher,
Don't most satellites go into the shadow of the earth after an hour or so of sunset, unless they are really high?
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Cypher,

This is from the FAQ section of Heavens-Above Home Page

Q.Why are satellites not visible in the middle of the night? A.Satellites are only visible when they are lit by the sun, but the observer on the ground is already in darkness. These conditions are met only when the sun is below the observer's horizon, but not too far down or the satellites themselves are also in the earth's shadow. So normally, satellites are only visible a few hours after sunset, or before sunrise. In the middle of the night the sun is simply too far below the horizon to light them. In summer however, especially at latitudes far north or south, the sun is never too far down, even at midnight, and satellites can be seen the whole night through.
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You only have to take a short walk down the Hay street mall to confirm there are aliens amongst us.
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You only have to take a short walk down the Hay street mall to confirm there are aliens amongst us.
The only "aliens" in Perth are the people that come from Darwin!!!
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The only "aliens" in Perth are the people that come from Darwin
Its a real worry that you claim to be one of them

I used to be worried about what I saw in the territory until I visited Perth.
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For a time not so long ago a bunch of children around Bibra Lake were making "skylights" out of an ultral light black plasic bag and one of those Tea Light candles in the aluminium cup.

Mini hot air balloon and they did appear to move fast carried on the summer south West sea breeze at about 500 ft agl moving about at the whim of the wind.

Quite dangerous really as the candle was capable of burning for a long time, mass versus lift seemed to restrict them to about 500 ft depending on night air tempreature.

Some of them made it to YPPH.
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Its a real worry that you claim to be one of them
What did I claim to be? A Perthite, a Darwinite, or a UFO??

I think the heat is getting to you. Good thing the dry season is there...
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I hate to admit but i posted in 2004 about this . Looks very similar to the u tube vid. Here is my post fm '04...

What I and four others saw this (sober ) evening...

time: approx 2350 local July 31st 2004
duration: approx 7 mins
location: guess 15-30km East of Essendon
alt: guess 10-20km
cloud: cirrostratus + some alto obscuring stars
event:

We noticed two intense, large, flame coloured lights estimated at 15-30km East of Essendon. The lights were well separated and seemed to hover for about 4mins.

The light that appeared higher or further East then appeared to move towards North or descend, whilst the other reacted in the opposite sense. Movement was not symmetrical and large separation was maintained.

The light that appeared to be higher dissapeared as it accelerated to what seemed an Easterly direction, whilst the second dissapeared soon after in an apparent South Easterly direction.

ATC did not record anything unusual.

Did anyone else witness these lights? I havent seen anything like them before. Their position and apparent motion suggests that they were not aircraft (in the normal sense), they seemed to be too high and move not like balloons.

yeah yeah i know where these stories usually end up but I did see them and they were unusual enough for me to write a post about them
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This is from the FAQ section of Heavens-Above Home Page

Q.Why are satellites not visible in the middle of the night? A.Satellites are only visible when they are lit by the sun, but the observer on the ground is already in darkness. These conditions are met only when the sun is below the observer's horizon, but not too far down or the satellites themselves are also in the earth's shadow. So normally, satellites are only visible a few hours after sunset, or before sunrise. In the middle of the night the sun is simply too far below the horizon to light them. In summer however, especially at latitudes far north or south, the sun is never too far down, even at midnight, and satellites can be seen the whole night through.

Ol-mate... so let me get this right.. even by Heavens Above own's FAQ..
you can still see satellites the whole night through...

In summer however, especially at latitudes far north or south, the sun is never too far down, even at midnight, and satellites can be seen the whole night through.
But yeah.. it does depend on the orbit.. how high and how big the object is..
as for the Perth phenomenon.. I can't really offer any other ideas..
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Thanks everybody,
Not having seen it myself, I am almost convinced it was a Sky Lantern as pointed out by Ollie_a. Webtrac shows nothing in the area at the time.

This brings me to another question though: If you did infact see something, would you report it
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