A few ASIC questions.

[andrewpb]

Hi Everyone,

I have a few ASIC questions, if you could please assist me it would be great.

1. What type of areas does the ASIC allow me access too?
2. I am training to fly but I am also a spotter, does the ASIC allow me into any spots for taking decent photos (besides the tarmac when I'm flying)
3. Approximately how long does the ASIC take to arrive?

Any answers would be appreciated greatly.

Regards,
Andrew

[helopat]

Andrew,

Not to be indelicate, but you should do a search on the topic before you post a question like this...you'll probably be busy for hours reading all the ASIC info on the site. Also, check the CASA website for info/legislation relating to the ASIC and what it does/doesn't allow you to do. If you haven't got an answer to your specific question(s), return here and post again.

HP

[fallen]

1. What type of areas does the ASIC allow me access too?

It doesn't allow you access to any areas.

2. I am training to fly but I am also a spotter, does the ASIC allow me into any spots for taking decent photos (besides the tarmac when I'm flying)

No

3. Approximately how long does the ASIC take to arrive?

Who have you applied through

[b_sta]

I suppose you could grab a discounted coffee at Perth Airport and take some shots while you're there...

[Zoomy]

Whilst your ASIC will allow you to access the secure part of a terminal, you must have a lawful reason to be there. If you are suggesting accessing any of the major airports you will also require an access card.
So even if you worked for virgin and had an access card for Sydney and an ASIC card, you could not wonder off over to an Emirates 777 to take a photo, unless you had a lawful reason to be there.

There is also a lot of other stuff you should become familiar with whilst you are an ASIC holder and as suggested, have a read of the info posted with your card or jump on the website (dotars I think ).

Hope this helps.

[andrewpb]

Thank you for all your info, yes I did have a quick search before I posted here but couldn't really find anything related to my questions. I will always have a lawful reason to be there, and I don't plan to go wondering. What facilities are available, I've heard there is flight planning facilities when you're flying and also what's this "access card' I've never heard of one.

Also I applied through CASA

Thanks for your help!
Andrew

[morno]

I've heard there is flight planning facilities when you're flying

What the!!??

To put it simply. Your ASIC is just so you can get airside to fly your aircraft. NOTHING MORE! It doesn't give you any extra privelages to what you need.

You might find if a Federal copper comes across you taking photo's while airside, and with no other reason to be there, then he'll promptly remove your ASIC from you, and perhaps even your camera.

morno

[Atlas Shrugged]

Approximately how long does the ASIC take to arrive?

Approximately how long is a piece of string?

[Tiger01]

Approximately how long does the ASIC take to arrive?

About 6 Weeks for mine to arrive ..
But i've heard anywhere between 2 weeks and 2 months!

[Monopole]

I will always have a lawful reason to be there

Andrew, be careful of what you are considering as lawful. You may be a student pilot with an ASIC, but if your C152 is parked down at YPJT, then you have NO LAWFUL REASON to be airside at YPPH. If your C152 is parked at the GA apron at YPPH, you still have NO LAWFUL REASON to be airside at the domestic gates. Unless you work for an operator at PH, you WILL NOT get an access card. If you are spotting outside of the parameter fence, but parked within 3 metres of it, you can flash your ASIC as much as you like. The saftey officer will still tell you to rack off. Neither does an ASIC card give you the authority to wander around an operators premises to look at their crew room, flight planning facilities or whatever it is you have heard. It does not entitle you to an upgrade on your next flight nor does it entitle you to sit in the jumpseat. Some cards only entitle you to be airside at 1 airport only.

Mate your ASIC does not allow you access to much at all. It does as stated above give you discounted coffee at Hudsons

[tmpffisch]

Monopole summed it pretty much up. All I'll add is that (as proven today) an ASIC will help you get through pax security when you forget to pack items that should be travelling in your checked in luggage instead of carry-on.

[andrewpb]

Why would I be at YPPH if my plane is at YPJT? It's funny though, I was just a asking a few simple questions yet I'm treated like a tool. Nice community you have going here Where on Earth did I say I wanted a free upgrade on my next trip or free anything for that matter?

[Blue Carpet]

tmpffisch that does not sound right. Asic or not you can't get past with scissors, knifes etc?

[j3pipercub]

Andrew, in saying this I'm trying to be as blunt as possible. If you ask tool-ish questions, expect to be treated like one.

j3

[Metro man]

Try going into a Customs controlled part of the airport without a lawfull reason if you really want to find yourself in trouble.

[andrewpb]

Whoa, people come onto this board asking questions about flying because they want to learn and they're treated awfully. Then again, after speaking to a few people who no longer use the board the comments have all been the same.

[j3pipercub]

then you know what to do... go put the L's on the 152 and fly off into the sunset.

[andrewpb]

Guess that's my only option then I do apologize if I have come off rude, but I haven't really got the best impression of this community by this topic. Serves me right I guess, search before you post.... Lesson too all "tools"

[mcgrath50]

Andrew,

Don't take it to heart, you got the info you wanted, ignore the other crap. Yes, it was a question that is easily answerable else where but that isn't an excuse for rudeness. PPRuNe has its fair share of tools, you just need to learn what to listen to and what to take with a pinch of salt.

[Metro man]

Andrew, I've been posting on this board for eight years now and if you go back and look at some of the replies I've had to my posts you'll soon see what sort of tossers there are out there.

If you want a career in aviation you will need to learn to deal with ***holes occasionally. I've found them in the right hand seat of C150s instructing, to the left hand seat of airliners and everything in between.

Fortunately they are a small minority, but they are definately around.