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Old 12th Apr 2011, 13:22
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The guy on the far right looks a little like Ned Kelly.
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Ex RAAF N24

Does anyone know where the two RAAF N24s ended up, #402/403? We took them down to Oakey from Tindal in around 1994/95 I think, where the ADF was to dispose of them.

They probably weren't a bad machine if they were powered by two PT6s, the flying tail plane was held on with more than two 5/16 bolts and the under carriage wasn't operated with bicycle chains! I was there when the damaged wings were changed, what a ****box!
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N24A-130.
19? The aircraft was registered as VH-HVK.
1990 The aircraft was sold to the Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF) and re-registered as A18-402.
199? The aircraft was based at Tindal, Northern Territory, Australia.
199? The aircraft was acquired by the Indonesian Navy and reserialed as P-836.


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Second from left - Bill Prowse; fourth from left - Stuart Pearce.
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A18-402, 12/6/97 to P-836.
A18-403, 12/6/97 to P-837, Crashed 07/9/2009, 5K.
Both with Indonesian Navy.
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Found this Picture of ZK-NAD


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Some of my nomad photos

Just a few from my collection when i was working and jumping from them WRT, SNX and BRP








BRP wheels up after failed go around in thunderstorm



WRT found cracks and deformation in stub fin shortly after it came down from Lady Elliot found a few other scary things on it as well.


Taken from SNX on a formation load over Picton

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Old 13th Apr 2011, 10:49
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Someone asked a while back what did the NSCA use the Nomads for?

As far as I recall mainly for parachuting, but of course for equipment transport, medical team transport and general duties. They were especially good at arriving at night, picking things up and dropping things off with the utmost of secrecy. Not even the security guard knew what was going on (so he told me years afterwards).

Was on-board their sail-training yacht the Peterson 44 off Wilsons Prom a long time ago. We had parachute teams dropped from the Nomad, land next to the (disabled) vessel, swim over, board unassisted, take control and sail the vessel back to Port Welshpool.

On some days, they jumped, swam to the yacht, took control, got picked up by another boat, motored to shore, picked up by helicopter, flown to airport, dropped by Nomad and the cycle starts again, over and over until they were buggered.

The fire-sale auction when it all wound up was interesting. Every bit of military but not military style equipment you imagine, including scuba re-breathers and other goodies. I wonder what happened to their Nomads.

I came across a car crash shortly after in Gippsland many years ago. Just as it happened an NSCA truck was driving past. He radioed a passing NSCA chopper with Para-Medical team on-board. The chopper landed and the crew of a few with all their gear straddled the barbwire fence like it was a foot high. These guys appeared to be amazing at what they did and had the highest level of fitness. It's always interesting to hear where these guys ended up.
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Even with Freddo long gone i would not even think aloud some of the things i saw and i was not even part of them.
The skydiving community did rather well out of them tho when it all went west.
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Did you guys hear about Nomad that went in wheels up into some farmers paddock and they fixed it on the spot and but when they were on there takeoff run he drove in front of the aircraft and it ended up on its back wrecked.

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Old 13th Apr 2011, 21:29
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Yes, I did. I can remember the location but little else about it.
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Yep double flame out due to pilot not managing fuel transfer from wingtip tanks. VH DNM. happened at Leongatha (spelling) VIC. Pulled the gear up as both engines flamed out almost together. Low life farmer refused to let it to be flown out and plowed around aircraft then tried to sue for crop loss. Owner snuck in to fly it out some time later but farmer tried to ram him on takeoff left gear ran into rut and aircraft followed it then got caught up in the fence. tripped up then flipped onto back. while it was laying in the paddock farmer made it home to his chooks. Was eventually removed after court battle.
Be carefull about leaving your aircraft if landing out, as some states have crazy salvage claim laws. local jumpers fixed farmer at later date.
it was the first Nomad owned by Sydney Skydivers and was one of the better ones until that happened.
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Old 14th Apr 2011, 00:24
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It's always interesting to hear where these guys ended up.
One of them became a lumper in a superstore warehouse on Whitehorse Rd Nunawading soon after NSCA closed down; waste of good resources.
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Old 14th Apr 2011, 03:39
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Thanks for that bit of info VH-XXX.

Weren't the NSCA the first people in Australia to have night vision goggles?

Talking of the NSCA, remember the C208 they operated on parachute operations one year. Who else got an interview and a fly of the C208?
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Old 14th Apr 2011, 04:59
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So nothing happend to the Farmer he just got away with it?

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Like it or not, it sounds like the farmer probably did nothing wrong.

In any farmer's defence, it's not just the aircraft sitting the paddock that's causing problems, it's the soil discuption, the recovery operation, extra vehicles, onlookers, media attention and general disruption to his otherwise quiet existence. He also has to worry about it being damaged by his livestock.

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Old 14th Apr 2011, 06:25
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If you are looking at it from his point of view you are right. I tend to look at it from a pilots view seeing an aircraft get wrecked is a waste. Sounds like negations didn’t work out if the owner had to sneak in there to fly it out.


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Old 14th Apr 2011, 14:07
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The paddock had not been used for productive farming for years before the incident. Farmer just tried to use it as a quick grab to make some cash. If he had taken the time to listen to the insurance people when they knocked on his door instead of running them off he would have learnt that he would have recieved a payout for inconvienience and any damage. Instead he got nothing in the end.
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Serves the prick right. **********!
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Old 15th Apr 2011, 02:31
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I have a few photo's of SNX from about five years back it was haveing engine problems. It didn't have any it was parked at bankstown airport this was back when there were planes there.

Anyway where syd skydivers the last fly this plane and why did they stop flying it.
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