Geoff Thomas "Aviation Expert" on Sunrise
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He has his hand on it yet again
Lead Slead - If GT was talking "the only toy/Flight Sim B777 simulator in Australia" he would be correct. 
However, if he's talking "the only REAL B777 sim in Australia" - then that would be located somewhere near Silverwater, NSW. Obviously GT is too tight to fork out for a ticket to a REAL B77 simulator, because his mates at QF don't have a B777 (or simulator), and VA (who has a REAL B777 simulator) see him for what he truly is - a person who is NOT an aviation expert, and wouldn't give him a free ticket to said sim - let alone a free ipad or Chairman's Lounge membership 
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He mentions being over the Malacca Strait. I think he meant 'Malaka' Strait.
Those among us of Greek descent will understand what I mean
Credibility ZERO as far as I'm concerned.
However, if he's talking "the only REAL B777 sim in Australia" - then that would be located somewhere near Silverwater, NSW. Obviously GT is too tight to fork out for a ticket to a REAL B77 simulator, because his mates at QF don't have a B777 (or simulator), and VA (who has a REAL B777 simulator) see him for what he truly is - a person who is NOT an aviation expert, and wouldn't give him a free ticket to said sim - let alone a free ipad or Chairman's Lounge membership .He mentions being over the Malacca Strait. I think he meant 'Malaka' Strait.
Those among us of Greek descent will understand what I mean
Credibility ZERO as far as I'm concerned.
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Hhhhhhhmmmm, In his article I couldn't understand why when he shut the engines down the aircraft ended up in 3 out of control scenarios, a different one each time he tried it, instead of just flying it and descending normally at either best range or best endurance glide speed???
Maybe the real world scenario wasn't going to be dramatic enough for the article's headline, which was-- "I cut the fuel. All hell was about to break loose".
Then again I remember Capt Moody and his crew on BA9 in 1982 lost twice as many engines as "Capt" Thomas and managed to glide very well giving them time to work the problem and find a solution or prepare for a ditching.
Maybe the real world scenario wasn't going to be dramatic enough for the article's headline, which was-- "I cut the fuel. All hell was about to break loose".
Then again I remember Capt Moody and his crew on BA9 in 1982 lost twice as many engines as "Capt" Thomas and managed to glide very well giving them time to work the problem and find a solution or prepare for a ditching.
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Yes, I read the only 777 in Australia thing and thought to myself....if you would take your QF blinkers off, you might find out there is a proper 777 sim in Australia, but they might not let you near it......
And as for "maximum certified decent rate" .....where does he get this rubbish from? There is no max certified rate!! And most of the rest of what he wrote is basically rubbish as well.
And as for "maximum certified decent rate" .....where does he get this rubbish from? There is no max certified rate!! And most of the rest of what he wrote is basically rubbish as well.
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The guy sells, simple as that, knowing anything factual is irrelevant as remember he's 'talking' to the gen public who know nufin' anyway & believe everything that's shown on TV!
This whole thing (missing tripple) is getting stale these days with re hashed stuff over & over again & without sounding awful to the poor relatives awaiting credible news etc the media are scratching for new stuff now to sell advertising, I mean the Media is a commercial business & in the business of making money & this guy is on tap for their commercial use. People buy/accept this stuff & who's to say otherwise? I was sitting in a terminal the other day awaiting to pax on a Co A/C & the joint was packed due delayed A/C all over the place & the conversations I heard around me re the B777 was amazing. So to show this B777 Sim folly with this guy at the helm means everything to these people.
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This whole thing (missing tripple) is getting stale these days with re hashed stuff over & over again & without sounding awful to the poor relatives awaiting credible news etc the media are scratching for new stuff now to sell advertising, I mean the Media is a commercial business & in the business of making money & this guy is on tap for their commercial use. People buy/accept this stuff & who's to say otherwise? I was sitting in a terminal the other day awaiting to pax on a Co A/C & the joint was packed due delayed A/C all over the place & the conversations I heard around me re the B777 was amazing. So to show this B777 Sim folly with this guy at the helm means everything to these people.
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Wally, I read the GT article in the West Aust today and thought it was just about the pits. As others have noted, it was full of inaccuracies and silly observations. It contributed nothing new and was base tabloid exploitation of a profound tragedy - simply execrable 'journalism'.
I guess I shouldn't be too surprised in that the West Oz was, in the recent past, the press organ that managed to transform a woman's murder into front page entertainment for weeks on end. Notwithstanding that miserable effort, GT's effort today plumbed new depths.
I guess I shouldn't be too surprised in that the West Oz was, in the recent past, the press organ that managed to transform a woman's murder into front page entertainment for weeks on end. Notwithstanding that miserable effort, GT's effort today plumbed new depths.
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Geoff Thomas "Aviation Expert" on Sunrise
Most of his articles are trash and the paper is only good to wipe your backside with. During the last few weeks though it has deteriorated to depths I didn't even know existed. Nice work "Biggles" you never fail to disappoint.
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I guess I shouldn't be too surprised in that the West Oz was, in the recent past, the press organ that managed to transform a woman's murder into front page entertainment for weeks on end. Notwithstanding that miserable effort, GT's effort today plumbed new depths.
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If everyone took 2 minutes to send something maybe he will pull his head in. I would really like a journo to run the following article "CASA investigates why Virgin has no 777 Simulator, 10 minutes of looking has located the simulator"
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Dear Sir,
Many of my fellow pilot's and I would appreciate if Geoffrey Thomas reported on the news rather than trying to make judgements and commentary on Malaysian Airlines flight. The fact remains Geoffrey is not a pilot and has no aviation expertise other than sitting in business class of QANTAS. I have read many newspapers but this does not make me a journalism expert. He is not trained on the Boeing 777 and allot of the information he portrays as an "expert" is simply not accurate. The information he provides is misleading and dangerous. The most obvious case being that his recreation in the "only simulator" in Australia is wrong. The aircraft he used is called a fixed based trainer and is not a simulator. The only Boeing 777 simulator in Australia is in Sydney that is used by Virgin Australia.
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Dear Sir,
Many of my fellow pilot's and I would appreciate if Geoffrey Thomas reported on the news rather than trying to make judgements and commentary on Malaysian Airlines flight. The fact remains Geoffrey is not a pilot and has no aviation expertise other than sitting in business class of QANTAS. I have read many newspapers but this does not make me a journalism expert. He is not trained on the Boeing 777 and allot of the information he portrays as an "expert" is simply not accurate. The information he provides is misleading and dangerous. The most obvious case being that his recreation in the "only simulator" in Australia is wrong. The aircraft he used is called a fixed based trainer and is not a simulator. The only Boeing 777 simulator in Australia is in Sydney that is used by Virgin Australia.
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GT is not the only one talking crap, the ABC news 24 'expert' should hand back his ATPL. 
If you are gong to comment, comment on the available information, don't make stuff up!
If you are gong to comment, comment on the available information, don't make stuff up!
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Money for old rope.
There is always a reasonable explanation, somewhere. Always someone who sees a chance and the devil take the hindmost. Aviation definitely has it's share of both.
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I can't comment on any article he has written in the past 3 years as I stopped reading his ****e in 2011. But it was always ****e, and from what I am reading here it is still ****e. He should not be allowed the name 'aviation expert' as quite simply, he isn't! I wish people would stop reading his ****e as that way the media might cut him loose and allow him to go back to what he should be doing - plane spotting. He is a ******.
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I was just going to post and ask if anyone has written a letter to Sunrise outlining all the "wrong" information as shown here. As a lay person it is pretty obvious. I work in another industry that has taken Sunrise to task in the past for "wrong" and "biased" information being presented and they do pull the heads in on most occasions.
I was just going to post and ask if anyone has written a letter to Sunrise outlining all the "wrong" information as shown here. As a lay person it is pretty obvious. I work in another industry that has taken Sunrise to task in the past for "wrong" and "biased" information being presented and they do pull the heads in on most occasions.
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They can't - coz they're top sponsor is - "da da dada ad dada Raise your hands and sing it with me....."
He has to lube up anything Onya and Rootrat do, and technically criticise everything else with his less than bees dick to do with serious aviation.
I'm waiting for the day he starts talking about the custard layer at 47,500'. Real custard, not that fake stuff, which I love but hey it's credibility is questionable, .....what was I talking about again.....aviation or lift or something, ahhh but ahh custard, yes yellow, creamy....tasty.
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He has to lube up anything Onya and Rootrat do, and technically criticise everything else with his less than bees dick to do with serious aviation.
I'm waiting for the day he starts talking about the custard layer at 47,500'. Real custard, not that fake stuff, which I love but hey it's credibility is questionable, .....what was I talking about again.....aviation or lift or something, ahhh but ahh custard, yes yellow, creamy....tasty.
GT (not)
As soon as I saw GT's article I knew it would be red rag to a bull to the many people who follow Prune. The entire world has been talking and speculating about MH370 and the heirachy of the media, print and electronic, want different angles as to what possibly happened. The general public don't have a clue as to the intricacies of aviation and like it or not GT is held in high regard by those who know little or nothing of the industry. In their eyes he's won bulk awards and therefore he must be the oracle. Run him down as much as you like but it will continue until one of you guys, or a collection of you, corrects him in the media or goes on shows such as Sunrise etc to set him straight. Don't say they wouldn't publish a letter or allow you in front of a camera because in my opinion they would if you had something of substance to disprove GT's assertions and correcting him on language and minor technicalities won't cut it. In the meantime GT will go on his merry way being the expert the general public clearly think he is. Here's your chance to put up or shut up.
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'51' I think you may be in the minority there if you support GT in any way but like all the rest of us we each are allowed an opinion:-)
Any one of us standing up in front of a Camera unknown saying things diff to GT would be looked upon as 'who the fock is this guy' 'cause the public don't know any of us or right from wrong with aviation tech details but they sure know GT as like I said earlier he 'sells' (the media couldn't give a rats as long as it's of a commercial benefit to them) & knowledge or lack thereof in his case is irrelevant.
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Any one of us standing up in front of a Camera unknown saying things diff to GT would be looked upon as 'who the fock is this guy' 'cause the public don't know any of us or right from wrong with aviation tech details but they sure know GT as like I said earlier he 'sells' (the media couldn't give a rats as long as it's of a commercial benefit to them) & knowledge or lack thereof in his case is irrelevant.
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