Full time FAA-->OZ conversion training
I spoke to a couple guys on APC that were saying they got approval to do the NZ ATPL exams at an ASL approved site over here through the consulate. Might be a far fetch for CASA but have been contemplating trying it. Any thoughts?
Oh, and remember hearin from guy on hear that he did the one air law exam and converted to CASA ATPL and got hired at VB.... There is hope for the easy way that means!
Oh, and remember hearin from guy on hear that he did the one air law exam and converted to CASA ATPL and got hired at VB.... There is hope for the easy way that means!
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Thanks for the help.
Exciter - I understand you to say CASA will not permit you to sit the ATPL exams if you have previously been issued a CASA ATPL certificate on the basis of other qualifications eg FAA ATPL. Thus one should sit all ATPL exams prior to attempting ATPL conversion. I would have thought as long as you paid a fee to sit the exams they wouldn't care who took them!
I have also read comments on these forums that some airlines in Oz require all flight training to have been undertaken in Oz. What degree of truth in that? If it is policy it is obviously a flexible one depending on availability of suitable Australian trained pilots.
Thanks for the help.
Exciter - I understand you to say CASA will not permit you to sit the ATPL exams if you have previously been issued a CASA ATPL certificate on the basis of other qualifications eg FAA ATPL. Thus one should sit all ATPL exams prior to attempting ATPL conversion. I would have thought as long as you paid a fee to sit the exams they wouldn't care who took them!
I have also read comments on these forums that some airlines in Oz require all flight training to have been undertaken in Oz. What degree of truth in that? If it is policy it is obviously a flexible one depending on availability of suitable Australian trained pilots.
Fudwinkel,
You're kind of on the right track. You can convert your ATP to ATPL with the single air law written exam (provided you have an original or converted CASA CPL and a CASA CMEIR). What is being said is that some airlines want you to have completed all 7 ATPL exam regardless of CASA reqs. You CAN sit the other 6 exams after you have converted your FAA ATP to CASA ATPL but the catch is, if you fail one exam, you lose your ATPL and go back to CPL until you pass every exam. VERY ANNOYING!!! THats what I've been told and pretty sure duxnuts will back me up.....
Where you trained is irrelevent to the airlines reqs but will make the CASA conversion flight test/s more difficult if you haven't lown in Oz.
Just read that CASA is making changes to their licencing which includes a ATPL flight test. Please note that this could take CASA 20 years as they are government run.
You're kind of on the right track. You can convert your ATP to ATPL with the single air law written exam (provided you have an original or converted CASA CPL and a CASA CMEIR). What is being said is that some airlines want you to have completed all 7 ATPL exam regardless of CASA reqs. You CAN sit the other 6 exams after you have converted your FAA ATP to CASA ATPL but the catch is, if you fail one exam, you lose your ATPL and go back to CPL until you pass every exam. VERY ANNOYING!!! THats what I've been told and pretty sure duxnuts will back me up.....
Where you trained is irrelevent to the airlines reqs but will make the CASA conversion flight test/s more difficult if you haven't lown in Oz.
Just read that CASA is making changes to their licencing which includes a ATPL flight test. Please note that this could take CASA 20 years as they are government run.
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Regarding being allowed to sit the ATPL exams if you allready hold an Australian ATPL (by way of of doing the Conversion Air Legislation Exam) all I can say is what what was told to me by the Casa Lilcensing & Registration Centre (CLARC) when I rang for a mate who was overseas.
Over the phone I was told that if you hold an Australian ATPL you can NOT sit the subjects. This was backed up by way of email.
All I can suggest is that before you believe me, or anyone else on this forum, you contact CLARC on ph 1300737032.
They are very helpful and if one day you want to fly for an Australian company that requires you to hold all the Australian ATPL subjects (not just have the Australian ATPL) you do yourself a favour and find out first hand.
Good luck in whichever way you go.
Over the phone I was told that if you hold an Australian ATPL you can NOT sit the subjects. This was backed up by way of email.
All I can suggest is that before you believe me, or anyone else on this forum, you contact CLARC on ph 1300737032.
They are very helpful and if one day you want to fly for an Australian company that requires you to hold all the Australian ATPL subjects (not just have the Australian ATPL) you do yourself a favour and find out first hand.
Good luck in whichever way you go.
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For those people in the US wishing to come to australia to fly and eventually work for Qantas, the sad news is you probably won't. The reason is they require a pass in all 7 ATPL subjects. To convert FAA ATP to CASA ATPL
you need to do in order CPL AIR LAW EXAM, IREX, ATPL AIR LAW, do flight training to pass a ME_CIR, then PASS the ME-CIR, medical, paperwork etc etc. HOWEVER, one you get ISSUED with your CASA ATPL you CAN sit for the other ATPL subject, BUT if you fail one you will have your ATPL revoked and only have a cpl. This has been verifed by casa. Qantas or any other airline that req's a pass in all 7 atpl subjects will not look at you. To the Best of my knowledge it is just qantas that req's this. Unless your a bloody genious i would not attempt it.
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you need to do in order CPL AIR LAW EXAM, IREX, ATPL AIR LAW, do flight training to pass a ME_CIR, then PASS the ME-CIR, medical, paperwork etc etc. HOWEVER, one you get ISSUED with your CASA ATPL you CAN sit for the other ATPL subject, BUT if you fail one you will have your ATPL revoked and only have a cpl. This has been verifed by casa. Qantas or any other airline that req's a pass in all 7 atpl subjects will not look at you. To the Best of my knowledge it is just qantas that req's this. Unless your a bloody genious i would not attempt it.
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Conversion to CASA
Forgive me if this has been covered but, I'm a Rotorcraft pilot and I'm about to get my commercial license then I will obtain my CFI.
I am looking into making the move to Australia to fly helis commercially and was wondering what might be entailed in that.
One more thing I got a DUI here in the States about 3 years ago (2 years before i became a pilot). I have my 2nd class FAA medical certificate and I am curious if the Australians even care about this American offense especially since it was before I became a pilot.
I am looking into making the move to Australia to fly helis commercially and was wondering what might be entailed in that.
One more thing I got a DUI here in the States about 3 years ago (2 years before i became a pilot). I have my 2nd class FAA medical certificate and I am curious if the Australians even care about this American offense especially since it was before I became a pilot.
